Harv nelson wrote:

OK Hams in Cincy. When you can't hear anything because the band is
full of BPL crap fire up your linears and rotate your beams toward the
noise, then call CQ all night. The BPL people will find their
internet not working because of the 'QRM' and there ain't a thing they
can legally do about it! When the customers demand their money back
maybe the power companies will call the experiment a failure.


My reaction (below) to the "QRM solution" (quoted above) was previously
posted on QRZ.net.

This is not a suggested course of action.

The FCC regulations do require us to use the minimum amount of power to
get the job done. Is trying to overcome QRN a good reason to switch to
high power? I think the FCC regs would support that. I'm sure that if
we just operate as we normally do, perhaps switch to high power if
necessary (but still remain within the law as far as all requirements
apply) we are not anymore a Public Nuisance than we ever were. It's
like the guy who moved next door to an airport and then complains about
the noise. He KNEW the airport was there. Same here, the BPL providers
KNEW about part 15, they just have to live with it.

The power companies know all about the Part 15 rules. They will never
attempt to prosecute you or harass you via the FCC or Federal Courts.

You WILL find yourself in a LOCAL court room, before a LOCAL judge, and
a LOCAL District Attorney. You will be prosecuted as a “Public
Nuisance" under the same laws used to protect the public from dogs
running at large, kids who squeel their car tires, and people who leave
piles of garbage laying about.

The judge will likely issue a "cease and desist" order. If you ignore
it, and fire up your rig anew, the LOCAL sherriff will be ordered to
take possesion of your equipment and probably take down your antennas
(at your expence), as well.

A good attorney would point out that federal law trumps local law.
There is probably enough prior cases dealing with TVI to act as such a
defense.

You can appeal these actions ... and you will very likely win your case
on appeal. But, only after two or more years of gut wrenching
legalistics and an expenditure reaching the $100,000 range ... probably
several hunderd thousand dollars. Each and every ham like you, will
likely have to fight this same battle, over, and over again ... for
himself, by himself, in each and every jurisdiction. The ARRL doesn't
have the money or staff to help you.

If you think its not possible, ask the guys from New York, who were
prosecuted under the "scanner laws", if their rigs have been returned to
them, yet. They won their cases.

As for the rest of your comments, I suppose you have made up your mind
and have burned your license, framed the ashes, and sold your radio gear
to the CB'er next door. I think there IS hope for the hobby, attitudes
about Morse are changing, the old farts in the ARRL being replaced by
younger blood. I personally think SOME way of keeping CW from totally
disapearing is needed, just to keep the diversity alive. It IS time for
a CW free HF license with mainline privilages. Keep the Extra class cw
bands exclusive, we can afford setting aside 25khz on several bands for
this. Keep some segments of all bands reserved for CW and other 'narrow
bandwith' modes, according to their usage. The ARRL's new band plans at
least sound like a start toward making ham radio more accessable to
everyone. BUT some sort of work IS needed to get a license, or we will
be left with nothing but the kaos that CB became. (If you don't put
some effort into getting yourself license, will you have enough pride in
it to respect it?)

As for BPL, I think in a decade it will be nothing but a memory, killed
off by better technology. Some of the power companies that are getting
into the broadband business are doing so by opening up their own
networks (which are fiber and rf based) to their end customers. The
term BPL in this case refers NOT to the method of delivery, but to the
provider. The power companies use a network to control power loading
transfering data between distribution points.

You're going to get BPL, in one form or another. The reasons have
nothing to do with an advance in technology. They have everything to do
with MONEY and POLITICS. You're going to get BPL. And, quite frankly,
you deserve it.

The FCC, The US Congress, The US Court systems ... are the very best
that MONEY can buy. The Commissioners of the FCC are NOT technologists
... they are bookkeepres, accountants, would-be/failed politicians (or,
their sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters), and lobbyists. They are
NOT your "friends-in-high-places". They've been bought and paid for.
They "take the king's coin, and do his bidding".

Why? You, Amateur Radio as a group, are mostly old, mostly fat, selfish,
lazy ....and, you don't VOTE regularly and knowledgeably. When you do
vote, it is on issues having little to do with your own self interest,
your community, or your hobby.

At present, the FCC records some 900,000 licences for the Amateur
service. Of these, at least 15% are dead people. That leaves about
800,000 "living" hams. Of those, less than 20 % vote regularly. So,
you have a total influence with the US Congress of aproximately 160,000
votes .... scattered across 450 odd districts. Not much for political
"Clout".

You are selfish. Your promote your hobby as an exclusionary fraternity.
You are NOT, at this date, an inclusive, accepting, welcoming union of
like minded and interested individuals. Rather, you link your hobby to
additional exclusionary protocols ... religious belief (I throw "morse"
and Christianity in the same pot), sexual orientation (or just gender),
language, race, and social origin. If you doubt me, you haven't been
listening to much of the chatter on 20 and 75 meter SSB. On my local 2
meter repeater, there are "extras" who won't even chat with a "no-code
tech" or "queer CB'er". Heaven help you if they hear you practicing
your Spanish with someone from Cuba.

What the hobby needs to force a repeal/reconsideration of BPL is an
infussion of about 10 million kids each of whom has 2 parents and 4
grand-parents ... all of voting age. 60 million votes ... thats CLOUT!

But, given the history of such things as 'Incentive Licensing", the
"Save Eleven" fiasco, and the religious "Rite of Morse", there is little
chance of seeing any such infusion before the entire hobby is history.

You are going to get BPL!

In short, don't invest in a new Icom rig, or that fantastiic Orion.
Instead, buy fishing gear ... find a new hobby, 'cuz this one is all but
dead.

Harv Nelson, AI9NL
Washburn, WI