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Old May 28th 11, 07:39 PM posted to talk.politics.guns,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.conspiracy
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Default Financial wealth, or JUST WHO SHOULD PAY FOR ALL OF THIS?

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On May 28, 10:13 am, Gray Ghost
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On May 27, 12:49 pm, Gray Ghost
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On May 27, 12:35 pm, Gray Ghost
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On May 26, 6:19 pm, Gray Ghost


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wholesale = $50
compliance costs = - $23
FairTax = $23
sales and other taxes = $27

Unless they changed the rules of math by Congressionl
decree
that's
$123.

You can refer to my math, in return I will refer to
your reading
comprehension. Was there something about "- $23" (read
minus $
23)
that you didn't get? I guess the example wasn't simple
enough
for
you.

Didn't see any minuses in there. You think compliance
costs are
jus
t
goin
g
to away?

Yes I do. As do the economists that examined the plan and
the way
market forces work.

--
Herman Cain for President! http://herman
cai
n.c
om/
If you don't support him you are a Racist!!
He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like
cancer)

Remember Desert One, Carter 0? Ain't it sad to wish that
Obama had
as
muc
h
ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't
have THAT
muc
h
competence?

And economists are never mistaken, cough-cough, hack-hack.

Of course not. They've told us over and over again how our
current tax system would fully fund the government.

--
Herman Cain for President! http://hermancai
n.c
om/
If you don't support him you are a Racist!!
He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like cancer)

Remember Desert One, Carter 0? Ain't it sad to wish that
Obama had as
muc
h
ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't have
THAT much
competence?

Exactly my point.

But you are perfectly fine with maintaining a system that
currently falls well short of funding the federal government?

You think that is my primary concern? if the government is not
spending correctly then yes I want to starve it.

Everyone want to talk about taxes. How about we talk about excess,
not Constitutional spending. How about we talk about what they
should be doing
and how much it should cost and then think about a tax system to
support THAT amount, not create another tax system to raise the
same amount of money and continue spending at the same rate.


I absolutely agree with you 100%. What I am discussing is merely
tax reform, not spending reform. The fairtax is meant only to
replace the current tax structure. Spending is a whole new ball of
wax. And, it's there too that I also agree with Herman Cain. Dude,
I'm on your side on that.

I see you support Herman Cain. You do realize he supports the
FairTax don't you? I suspect a businessman like him has many of
the same questions all of you have been pelting me with. And I
bet he understand what compliance costs are and how they affect
business. And through all that he supports the FairTax. You
still going to vote vote for him? I trust him far more than I
do the likes of socialists like Obama. Cain will be getting my
vote.

I rarely if ever agree with any candidate 100%. However I do need
to support one with my vote, I am not a believer in the idea that
not voting "sends a message". If you don't vote you have
effectively voted for the winner. I do not care for any of the old
school Republicans and I despise Obama so i have to pick someone.
Honestly, I might even support Ron Paul except that he is a little
bit to blind to the importance of the military and that
disengaging the way he wants to might be a little dangerous.

--
Herman Cain for President! http://hermancain.com/
If you don't support him you are a Racist!!
He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like cancer)

Remember Desert One, Carter 0? Ain't it sad to wish that Obama had
as much
ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't have THAT
much competence?


The "Fair" tax is inherently unfair.

High earners are shield from the tax by the money they DON'T spend



So are the poor or do you think that the Good Fairy shows up at night
and robs their piggy bank or goes through their wallets?

.
.
The poor are another subject.


No, they really aren't. After all, if it wasn't for the poor, how on
earth would you define the rich?

The middle class earner who just gets by and cannot save is taxed more
heavily than a person making millions, who cannot possible spend all
he/she earns.


Care to show your work.......Yes, he pays a bigger share of his earnings
in taxes, but that is not due to tax rates.

The unspent portion is untaxed in your inherently unfair sales
tax..


Excuse me, but I am not proposing a sales tax nor am I supporting one.

Cleverly labeled a "Fair" tax it is UNFAIR.


That is the name that those who propose it put on it.



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If you woke up this morning....
Don't complain.