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Default A CASE OF WHODUNIT!

On Jun 4, 12:37*am, wrote:
On Jun 3, 6:20*am, joeturn wrote:





On Jun 3, 12:35*am, wrote:


On Jun 2, 12:51*am, joeturn wrote:


On Jun 1, 11:37*pm, joeturn wrote:


On Jun 1, 11:13*pm, wrote:


On Jun 1, 11:01*pm, joeturn wrote:


On May 6, 3:32*pm, Jah Wobble wrote:


John Smith wrote:
On 5/6/2011 11:22 AM, John Smith wrote:


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Burnt off in 15 minutes!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!


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Well, I am with you, I frequently laugh at anything FEMA/NIST says, also
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However, I do believe they are right on, at least, this single point:


"It is highly unlikely that jet fuel was present to generate such
explosions especially on lower floors, and long after the planes hit the
buildings. Dr. Shyam Sunder, Lead Investigator for NIST stated: "The jet
fuel probably burned out in less than 10 minutes.” (Field, 2005) *On the
other hand, pre-positioned explosives provide a plausible and simple
explanation for the observations, satisfying Occam’s razor (Jones,
2005). *Thus, it cannot be said that “no evidence” can be found for the
use of explosives. *This serious matter needs to be treated as a
plausible scientific hypothesis and thoroughly investigated."


Fire up google and see how many disagree with Dr. Shyam Sunder!


Like you, he is a retard if you think we tossed the trade center, the
pentagon, and the plane in PA, faked the moon landing, and etc..
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So you believe in fairy tales? Man has never survived a trip to the
moon.You saw the lunar modual on TV(just like the cartooned planes
hitting the buildings),now explain how they docked the lunar modual
and got into the splash down modual!


Its television not reality!


We tossed the Titanic,the Lusiatania,the Murrah Building,Pearl
Harbor,ect why not the rest?- Hide quoted text -


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The planes on TV that noone at the scene saw .The ones they
spliced(overlayed) onto the live feeds on 911 at the precise momets to
hoodwink the audience into believing they were real! A few live feeds
did not have the overlay and published the view without planes! They
even hologramed the south tower plane hit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek-Q0T9wK2g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXr_s...Hidequoted...-


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Also notice the sound of the plane in flight keeps playing after it
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The sound of the plane keeps playing ? What are talking about ??? Why
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watch and listen!


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*I listened and saw (in REAL LIFE) . On Sept. 11, 2001 . In case you
are wondering -- the smell of dead people is not very pleasant ,
especially after *they have been discovered several weeks after that
date . The acrid , smoking air was persistent for months, by the way ,
all over downtown .You can take your fairytales elsewhere , not here .
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No cadaver dogs alerted to dead people and your the only one that has
said there was the smell of death there!

I listened and saw as much as you did and was nowhere around the
stinch of NYC.It smells like that often when the garbage men go on
strike,I'm told!

Most of the Government officials knew in advance the buildings were
going to be brought down by demolitions and that this would bring
about multiple law suits over asbestos exposure so the fake terrorist
attack got the job done! The builds were schedualed to be taken down
and rebuilt because they were about to collapse on their own due to
Galvanic Corrosion.The shelacked asbestos coating to counter the
galvanic corrosion was a **** poor idea by Brown & Root,as the salt
water saturated the shalacked asbestos and in aided the galvanic
corrosion prosess.

The electrolysis of the connection of different metals metals ate up
the bonding agent in the concrete floors thus they turned to dustwhen
jolted!

I'm sure there were some people that were killed in the demolitions
but the buildings were evacuated and roped off befor the first bomb
went off in the north tower said to be a plane,so silverstien could
cash in on his insider trading$$$$

This is what it smells like when the fat lady sings!

http://www.bushstole04.com/911/statute.htm

What do the Statue of Liberty and WTC Towers have in common?

http://100777.com/node/1074

The Statue of Liberty had to be repaired due to galvanic corrosion in
air. Not what most think is possible but in ocean environments, very
possible. Normally galvanic corrosion is only a factor in an
electrolyte such as sea water and the stern drive on the boat - having
steel and aluminum components - erodes, turns brittle and snap - it
fails - if electrolytic grounding plates are not installed.

"""The galvanic reaction between iron and copper was originally
mitigated by insulating copper from the iron framework using an
asbestos cloth soaked in shellac. However, the integrity and sealing
property of this improvised insulator broke down over the many years
of exposure to high levels of humidity normal in a marine environment.
The insulating barrier became a sponge that kept the salted water
present as a conductive electrolyte, forming a crude electrochemical
cell as and Volta had discovered a century earlier."""

In 1989 - there were plans to erect scaffolding and disassemble the
WTC towers and rebuild them. Cost projection was around $5.6 billion.
One of the architects shows up to work one day and the MIB's were
there - had confiscated all of the plans, specs, details, etc for WTC.
They even confiscated their office cubicles and had tape on the floor
outlining where they went.

Reason - the exterior cast aluminum WTC panels had been directly
connected to the steel superstructure of the building, thus causing
galvanic corrosion. In short, the "life cycle" of the WTC was not 200
- 300 years, more like 30 years or so.

The exterior skin of the building - in being aluminum and connected
directly to the super structure - was making the building weaker every
day.

That could explain why there appears to be explosives set only about
every 25 floors. Once the failure started, the brittleness of welds,
rivets, bolts, etc would fail much easier as the loads became
progressively greater on the way down.

That same process would also explain why the concrete was "powderized"
over time because electrolytic processes weaken concrete too by
"debonding" the Portland that causes concrete to bond in the first
place. However, bear in mind that the "concrete floors" were not load
bearing reinforced concrete. They were supported by what was a
weakening by the day superstructure and cross members.

There was a 1989 meeting and the folks at the architectural firm Emory
Roth, the project architect that took over after the design architects
completed the conceptual drawings that had their office, records,
plans and specs seized - were told that the $5.6 billion "take it
down, rebuild it" project was cancelled and in about "10-12 years"
they would "blow it up and start over". Consider that - and consider
that NYC and the US Govt could not stand the global embarrassment of
being so stupid or negligent that they did not consider the effects of
galvanic corrosion on the superstructure. That is structural design
101 in architectural school and why they want architects to take
physics and chemistry for Christ's sake. I did.

I am an architect by the way, quit practicing in 1988.

http://www.npl.co.uk/ncs/docs/the_el...rosion_figures

http://www.npl.co.uk/ncs/docs/the_el..._corrosion.pdf

http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Aircraft/galvdefi.htm see bimetallic
corrosion to get to the two links above

http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Lan...tue-saddle.htm

Guess what?

The fat lady HAS SUNG. You know, the one in New York Harbor with the
torch of Liberty and Freedom held high.

I want to find the sick ******* that thought it would be a cute idea
to have close to 3,000 in the building and use that as an excuse to go
take on a whole new energy policy, war policy, and lining the pockets
of just certain people.

I think a Statute of Liberty hanging for that person would be most
appropriate.

best regards,

Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC

Karl W. B. Schwarz President, Chief Executive Officer