On Jun 22, 10:59*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/22/2011 10:26 AM, American wrote:









On Jun 22, 9:12 am, John *wrote:
On 6/22/2011 8:56 AM, American wrote:

On Jun 22, 7:35 am, John * *wrote:
On 6/22/2011 1:55 AM, HVAC wrote:

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Why do you god believers have such a hard-on for ether?

Is it because neither actually exists? Is that it?

No.

It is because they would have to be willing to look like you, a complete
moron, to deny this is all a creation of a creator, and something can
exist within nothing ... it takes a mind of certain capabilities to be
able to use logic and reason, and allowing the individual(s) in question
the ability to conventionalize the complexities ... to realize what
platforms are necessary to set this all in motion, to have it in
existence ...

To morons, the answer is simple, "It all just happened." *And, "It just
did it on its' own." *Such doesn't bother complete idiots ... indeed,
this serves as good enough explanation to them, works on children and
retards too, and for good reasons!

It is obvious, Einstein was on to something ...

Regards,
JS

If an aetherist really wanted to throw an iron in the fire, he could
validate himself first by claiming that Einstein's Theory of
Relativity is not a Law, but just a theory. In that sense, a theory
cannot be proven. But there are other ways of stating the formula:
E=m_e(c^2)=lambda_e(W_k)(W_x)=e(W_x), where lambda_e represents the
wavelength of the electron, W_k represents the wave intrinsic to the
particle (or to the linear momentum carried by the massfree particle,
usu. equal to de Broglie's pilot or group wave, with W_x representing
the particle, or "extrinsic" to momentum, that is analogous to de
Broglie's phase wave, and "e" representing the charge of the
electron).

Thus the Einstein equation offers only the electromagnetic portion of
mass-energy, and must be taken into consideration with the fine
structure of the mass-energy, as the fine structure relates to the
condensate of the "aether", and not the electromagnetic field.

Enter scalar electromagnetics, where the electron represents a
spherical standing wave with an "in" portion and "out" portion. Each
of their "potential" amplitudes are actually infinite at the center of
the spherical standing wave, but when both opposites are forced to
combine, they form a standing wave of finite amplitude. That amplitude
is a scalar, and not an electromagnetic vector.

Thus the speed of light is not so much a barrier as it is a speed of
energy exchange.

American

"Feynman died in 1988 before his partner John Wheeler met
* *Peter Lynds who is now promoting an ancient Greek theory
* *on Infinity."

* *- The Brodericks, on the movie "Infinity - Feynman"

The truth is open to the eyes ...

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite
direction." -- Albert Einstein

In a truly empty box, there is no room -- there is no "space", only an
idiot could possibly call any container "empty" which contains
"spacetime" or the ether, there simply would be nothing to hold the
sides, top and bottom apart!

You fall prey to the same mistake most make, if your ideas have been in
error long enough, they become truth! *However, on close examination,
that is false, in itself ...

Regards,
JS

Ever heard of John Archibald Wheeler? There's the "Participatory
Anthropic Principle" that formulates that it was other observers
that create our reality. If so, is that why humans pray to a
higher form of intelligence, i.e. "God, YHWH, Lord", rather
than hope that we'll have enough money to pay the
humanist piper?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler

The multinationalist banking, unions, and (non-aetheric) fundamen-
talist colonialists are left having to explain for themselves why
things should always continue as they have been, since the days
of Woodrow Wilson (Father of Modern Progressivism). IMO
presidents Lincoln through Wilson, with the possible exception
of Taft, proved that most political parties since Tesla, remained
in the back pockets of the wealthy transnationalists, who would
use fear, uncertainty, and death (FUD) to serve their own,
metered energy needs.

Who are people like Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Romney, Cain,
Palin, Pawlenty, and Bachmann? They're all just in the front of
a very long line of puppets and ponzi schemes, designed to
rip off the population at the expense of the multinationalists.
Yeah, the problem is deep and runs through treacherous
waters. America is being set up for another "Greece",
even after Einstein himself (1921) was quoted as saying:

"It strikes me as unfair, and even in bad taste, to select a few
* individuals for boundless admiration, attributing superhuman
* powers of mind and character to them. This has been my
* fate, and the contrast between the popular assessment of
* my powers and achievements and the reality is simply
* grotesque."

What ever happened to "Realville", as opposed to "Literalville"?
With data skewed based upon political agendas, and status-
quo agendas based upon everything that has been done
before, all the while what's left of the heathen, gets taxed
and spent to death without a single squeak about the massive
lie being perpetrated inside the iron beltway.

American

"Paul Revere of Boston, in the Colony of the Massachusetts
* Bay in New England; of Lawfull Age, doth testify an say;
* that I was sent for by Docr. Joseph Warren, of said Boston,
* on the evening of the 18th of April, about 10 oClock; When
* he desired me, "to go to Lexington, and inform Mr Samuel
* Adams, and the Honl. John Hancock Esqr. that there
* was a number of Soldiers, composed of Light troops,&
* Grenadiers, marching to the bottom of the Common, where
* was a number of Boat to receive them; it was supposed, that
* they were going to Lexington, by the way of Cambridge River,
* to take them, or go to Concord, to distroy the Colony Stores."

* - Part of the Paul Revere, Deposition [Fair copy], c. 1775,
* * Special Collections Revere, Massachusetts

Some things are relevant to radio, gravity, ether, energies, etc.,
politicians and forefathers are not, with the exception of Benjamin
Franklin who "discovered" electricity ...

Regards,
JS

One has to mention forefathers, as they relate to the original intent
of the Constitution of the U.S. Major corporations have created a
monster out of the Corporate State, disqualifying the present
Constitution as a non-organic one, replacing the Thirteenth
Amendment "If any citizen of the United States shall accept,
claim, receive, or retain, any title of nobility or honor, or shall,
without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present,
pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any
emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall
cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be
incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them,
or either of them", and adding fraudulent amendments to
replace it. The 14th and 16th amendments were never
ratified by the states!

http://www.uhuh.com/constitution/am13-fgd.htm

Democracy replaces Republicanism with "mob rule" rather
than "government of the people and by the people", and "we
the people". If you follow the paper trail, it is rule by the
Vatican,
which utilizes the "mob rule" principle. The "Crown" is the king's
corporation, setup to do the King's business and protect the
King from any liability (Anyone say "B.P.'?). The bankers and
the crown dress up their candidates for office, help them obtain
election, and then control them while in office. Supposedly,
one is supposed to have a choice, when both major political
parties and other political parties are controlled by them.

Where are all of the new ideas being generated? Not in
the current FUD state - that one's owned by most lobbyists.
Major media is used to direct and control public opinion,
that lies somewhere between the two hammers of the
current Republican and Democratic "establishments".

American

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me
and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country.
Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in
high places will follow, and the money power of the country
will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices
of the people, until the wealth of the nation is aggregated in
a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed."

- Abraham Lincoln, commenting after the passage of the
National Banking Act of 1863 - the forerunner of the Federal
Reserve Act of 1913.