Roger has been listening to those who have a nice tidy explanation of
everything. Sometime you want to try to explain to him how come our lettuce
is so cheap.

"Roger Gt" wrote in message
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Is that why 18% of inmates in the Oregon prison system are
illegals? Nearly one third of petty criminals in Southern Ca are also
illegals.

Actually, this probably has more to do with the great public defender they
are likely to get.

You haven't got the perspective! The sleep on the streets and
hang out at businesses hoping to be offered work and have
destroyed whole neighborhoods.

Well, I lived down in Orange County CA for a long time. I must admit that
there are some offensive things going on, but most of the illegals I know
about are not the quintessential Hobos of our modern society. Too much risk
in coming above "the man's" radar. They hang with their extended families,
and out in the farming districts where they get seasonal work. Big
population in Colorado for some reason.

The problem is spreading and it is
really bad the nearer you get to the boarder. Farmers along the
border have their crops and equipment stolen or spoiled and have
to maintain a security patrol to keep their homes from being
broken into. These people are criminals and do not respect any
laws.

Beg pardon. These people, except for course for the drug mules that we pay
to bring us our cheap drugs, are the brightest, best, and most ambitious of
a seriously abused population. We might solve 90% of our problems, at the
cost of a bit more expensive lettuce, by making them semi legals and
preventing their abuse.

.... (subject. Paying taxes.)
Not then, nor now! They are a major burden on the state to the
tune of about $4b a year!

Whew! Is that all? They are responsible for around 12 billion in company
proffits, of which they get around 3 billion, and out of that they pay
around half billion in sales taxes. Actually I expect their employers
collect federal and state tax from their salary, and pay it to themselves. I
think that overall our illegal emegrants likely provide us more benifit than
cost, and on top of that they are such an easy target for racial and
cultural hatred. Easy to blame our total failure to provide for our own poor
by calling them all illegals because some few are, horror of horrors, unable
to get legally admitted to our official version of heaven.

BTB, I just made up the numbers for the heck of it. Sounds reasonable to me,
so find better ones.