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Old September 23rd 11, 06:04 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Richard Clark Richard Clark is offline
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Default You heard it here (before) first - FTL in the New York Times

"Tiny Neutrinos May Have Broken Cosmic Speed Limit"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/23/sc...speed.html?hpw

"the neutrinos raced from a particle accelerator at CERN outside
Geneva, where they were created, to a cavern underneath Gran Sasso in
Italy, a distance of about 450 miles, about 60 nanoseconds faster than
it would take a light beam. That amounts to a speed greater than light
by about 0.0025 percent (2.5 parts in a hundred thousand). "

I am impressed that they know the Permeability and Permittivity of
that dirt path to 0.0025% at any time of year, and time of day, for
any weather (for the speed of light comparison).

"Dr. Ellis noted that a similar experiment was reported by a
collaboration known as Minos in 2007 on neutrinos created at Fermilab
in Illinois and beamed through the Earth to the Soudan Mine in
Minnesota. That group found, although with less precision, that the
neutrino speeds were consistent with the speed of light."

They, obviously don't know their dirt (or it could be the effect of
10,000 lakes - umm, Italy has a lake district doesn't it?).

"Measurements of neutrinos emitted from a supernova in the Large
Magellanic Cloud in 1987, moreover, suggested that their speeds
differed from light by less than one part in a billion."

No dirt involved there (of course, I could be mistaken; it is a long
way without a rest stop).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC