"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 28.09.2011 23:05, schrieb Gray Guest:
Thomas wrote in news:9eh1fuFakeU1
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Am 28.09.2011 01:29, schrieb John Smith:
.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

Civil war in the US would be really terrible. (And I have doubt, that
such handguns would be the weapons of choice.)

Better would be to prevent havoc.

I think, that violence isn't the right way. People would better try to
reacquire control about all elements of the society: the communities,
politics, education, health-care, nutrition, transportation, military
and even entertainment.

In all these fields, there are people involved, that do not want their
country destroyed. But there are also 'bad guys', that like misery,
violence, sickness and dirt.

If you want nicer people, you had to clean your (personal!) environment,
remove the rubble, overpaint the graffiti, disallow drug trafficking,
rethink education, watch less tv, cook your own food, walk, smile - but
don't carry a gun around.

To regain control you need to start with local affairs and reorganise,
what is in reach. Do not let any dubious character have any influence on
any public office. To identify such persons is difficult, but some
characteristics you certainly don't want to have at - say - a teacher.
For example membership in any sort of 'secret society' is definitely
not acceptable or massive tattoos, drug consume, sexual disorder, known
violence or extremistic political opinions.

Such persons are generally a threat to more 'usual' people, because they
are too boring for their sick brains.


TH


The resort to violence however is sometimes thrust upon people. The evil,
the criminal and the aggressor has their own aganda. No amount of
conciliation can deter them, only answering kind with kind.

You are refered to the 1930s for an example of wooly headed peace with
honor stupidity and where it led. Had Europe stood up to Hitler any time
between 1936 and 1938 the conflagaration of 1939 to 1945 could have been
avoided.

Sometimes a small amount of preemptive violence is preferable to large
amounts of avoidable violence.


The armament of the American society is most likely the greatest stumbling
block for globalistic self-proclaimed fascistic elite.

But these arms are not to be used, because in a real fight, the
professionals are better off than you with a handgun.


What "professionals are those ?
And what makes you presume that we (allegedly) NON "professionals
- only have handguns ?
- are less capable that those alleged "professionals"
Not to mention that there is no guarantee that all those "professionals
would align themselves with an abusive government.


But people could 'take it back'. I mean 'the real life', the communities,
local affairs, education and so forth. It is all about people and how they
behave. People should know, that certain things are not allowed and should
not be done.


And what are those things are are "not allowed and should not be done"
Do give us a list..


Drugs of all sorts feed the 'bad guys', so you should try to avoid any
drugs - at least not pay for them. This because the money for the drugs
goes into the wrong canals and supports the criminals and unwanted
behaviour.

Any person without a shelter is a thread to public health. So it is
mandatory to allow every person access to soap and water, some sort of
housing and food.

Any kind of toxic waste should be removed from public places, to allow
kids safe play in their neighbourhood.

Public land should be accessible. Even farmland should be allowed to enter
for pedestrians, that just want to pass.

To create a strong society based on civil affairs, the industry and the
smaller companies had to be protected.

The Americans fought endless wars without apparent reason and without
apparent benefit.


Feel free to list those wars that Americans fought
"without apparent reason and without apparent benefit."

Many think, these wars are somehow good for America.

Who is "Many"
and HOW many are those "many" ???
Just so we can figure out what we're dealing with here ?

But - for example- what kind of benefit do you expect from the invasion of
Afghanistan, Somalia, Irak? It always ends like Vietnam: with a lot of
dead soldiers and no real gain.


Afghanistan was to attack and destabilize the Taliban
At the time, becoming a major force force in creating radical
Islamofascists.
Somalia was at the time supposed to be an aid mission that was badly planned
and executed
Iraq was a multiple level play
a) limit and ultimately get rid of Saddam
b) Send a message to Iran and others that they are NOT invulnerable
because they are far from the US
c) an opportunity to destroy a whole bunch of jihadists
d) curb local mullahs
e) Come to the aid of the Kurds and southern Iraqis who were being
massacred wholesale by Saddam.
Just to name a few...

Maybe you need to study up a bit before you come back to spout more of your
simplistic cant.