On Sep 30, 12:15*pm, RD Sandman wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:29:19 -0700, John Smith
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.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....
good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc.
Could stop 'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other
guns, or save your arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and
the conspirators want you silenced!
http://bondarmsusa.com/
(make sure you watch the video!)
Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!
Regards,
JS
**** that. *This is a much better weapon.
http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/index.html
Five shots, better reload time, much more accurate.
Leave it to Johnny Kook to pick a POS like a Bond Arms 2 shot.
Dozens of better guns out there.
Depends on what you're after.
On a shot per shot basis, the .410 is going to deliver more to
target.
effectively ten 30 caliber pellets to target in the time it takes
to pull the trigger twice.
A .410 handgun round contains 8 or 9 pellets if it is a #4 shot.
That's about right, the problem is you lose space because the
pellets are staggered. Thus a lot of the shell capacity is empty
air.
It
contains 3 pellets if it is 000 which is approximately .36 caliber.
Maybe a few brands, but if you look around even in 2.5" you can get
4 pellets.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...ctNumber=53316
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and in 3" (which I believe I mentioned somewhere) you get 5 pellets.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=170759
and .36 matches up nicely with the .357 caliber of the .38 and .357.
*A
12ga shoots about 9 pellets in 00.
Again, with the 12, you lose capacity because the pellets are
staggered.
In the .410 they are neatly lined up, making maximum use of the
available space.
Use a buffered shot and you will get a nice tight group at close
ranges.
Whereas the Ruger is going to take 5 trigger pulls, a reload, and
than another 5 trigger pulls.
Nope. *Go back and revisit the .410 load fired by a Judge.
Are you talking the regular Judge or the 3" Judge?
Both seem to contain the same number of pellets in 000. *The
difference is in the powder charge, apparently.
Check the links given. You can get 5 pellets in a 3" shell, and 4 in a
2.5" shell.
See yesterday's statement further down.
One gives you 4 pellets of triple aught, the other gives you 5.
Not per wiki.
Midway sells them.
Maybe wiki is wrong?
There, corrected it for you. 2.5" shell holds 4, not 3
per
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=533166
The Bondarm's Century 2000 derringer, the gun under discussion,
accepts up to a 3" .410 shell.
Hence the 5 pellets discussed.
Perhaps of 00.......but the heavy load mentioned was 000.
Yep, and as cited above in a 3" shell even according to wiki it's 5
pellets of 000
Not nine as originally stated. *That was the reason I mentioned 12ga.
Of course, you could also load in a .410 with 5 pellets of 0000 buck
(0.375). Of course, you're probably going to need to mail order
those, and I think only a few manufacturers even make them.
:-)
That's not to say that one is a better gun than the other, but as
in so much it depends on what you're looking for it to do.
Also the .410 loading is generally reported to have a fairly high
1 shot stop percentage, since you are usually effectively hitting
the target multiple times in 1 shot.
Three, if all impact and you are shooting 000 buck.
Actually even if more than 1 hit, you will still be hitting the
target multiple times. :-)
Same with two trigger pulls on an SP-101.
Yea, but 2 trigger pulls take longer than 1.
- Yes, but not as long as one trigger pull,
- a search for the damn gun...
That's the One-Shot {inside-a-room} scenario.
-female-using-both-hands-on-one-knee-in-a-corner-
and another trigger pull.....if one is up to it.
*IF* that One-Shot missed or did not stop him
-then- The Last Shot [#2] is to Shove the Gun
in his Gut as he come to you and Pull the Trigger.