"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 29.09.2011 17:04, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

But - for example- what kind of benefit do you expect from the
invasion of Afghanistan, Somalia, Irak? It always ends like Vietnam:
with a lot of dead soldiers and no real gain.


Afghanistan was to attack and destabilize the Taliban
At the time, becoming a major force force in creating radical
Islamofascists.
Somalia was at the time supposed to be an aid mission that was badly
planned and executed

Somalia was one of the poorest countries of the world in that time. The
Americans managed to make things even worse, since now there are pirates
from that country, that threaten the ships coming from the Suez Canal.

Really
And naturally, other than making a fatuous and unsubstantiated claim, you
can provide a CAUSAL explanation to support that claim ?



It is hard to believe how these people could be a thread to the US
military, since there wasn't even a government, hence no real army - only
tribal forces with not much more than a self-made mortar.


Your stupid strawman
I'll leave you to feed it..

Why did the US forces failed to create at least a little bit stability?


Because
1) They didn't go there in large enough numbers to control the whole
country
2) They were sent to take out a specific warlord
3) They project was undermanned and poorly planned by the powers that be
4) They then ran into a serious problem (Blackhawk Down)
5) The politicians then got cold feet and pulled out..

Why do you have to demonstrate such abyssal ignorance
And since you are so ignorant, maybe you should stop making stupid
allegations about what happened and what followed.

Iraq was a multiple level play
a) limit and ultimately get rid of Saddam
b) Send a message to Iran and others that they are NOT invulnerable
because they are far from the US
c) an opportunity to destroy a whole bunch of jihadists
d) curb local mullahs
e) Come to the aid of the Kurds and southern Iraqis who were being
massacred wholesale by Saddam.
Just to name a few...


Actually the Kurds had more problems with the Turks, which is a country
the Americans support.


Diversion noted
Don't change the subject to avoid facing data you did NOT know..