Thomas Heger wrote in
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Am 03.10.2011 04:41, schrieb Gray Guest:
Thomas wrote in
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Am 01.10.2011 20:30, schrieb Gray Guest:
Thomas wrote in news:9ep1fdF442U1
@mid.individual.net:

Well, Somalia is larger than you think and is full of deserts and
mountains. It could be real hard to find a certain individual,
especially since they don't use all these electronic gadgets,
individuals could usually be identified with.
But you don't want to tell me, the US army/navy/air force went
there, to find a specific war lord. (?)

Why do you have to demonstrate such abyssal ignorance
And since you are so ignorant, maybe you should stop making stupid
allegations about what happened and what followed.


sorry, but this thread is a bit out of my usual range of subjects
and meandered somewhere even more remote. But I don't think my
statements are that wrong. But if you are interested, I can do a
little bit of research.


TH


If you have to ask that question, now, all these years later, you are
particularly unqualified to comment.


I don't 'have to ask these questions'. Somalia was an example, but I
could have taken another invasion and ask, why that was done and were
there is any befit from this.

So you don't actually know the answer then? Just checking.

In a century the USA fought - maybe - two hundred wars. That was a
lot

Name each one.


If only the official interventions are counted, than you may read this
list: http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/gros...rventions.html

SOUTH DAKOTA 1890 (-?) Troops 300 Lakota Indians
massacred at Wounded Knee.
ARGENTINA 1890 Troops Buenos Aires interests protected.
CHILE 1891 Troops Marines clash with nationalist rebels.
HAITI 1891 Troops Black revolt on Navassa defeated.
IDAHO 1892 Troops Army suppresses silver miners' strike.
HAWAII 1893 (-?) Naval, troops Independent kingdom
overthrown, annexed. CHICAGO 1894 Troops Breaking of rail
strike, 34 killed. NICARAGUA 1894 Troops Month-long
occupation of Bluefields. CHINA 1894-95 Naval, troops
Marines land in Sino-Japanese War KOREA 1894-96 Troops
Marines kept in Seoul during war. PANAMA 1895 Troops, naval
Marines land in Colombian province. NICARAGUA 1896 Troops
Marines land in port of Corinto. CHINA 1898-1900 Troops
Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies. PHILIPPINES 1898-1910
(-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, killed 600,000 Filipinos
CUBA 1898-1902 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain,
still hold Navy base.
PUERTO RICO 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain,
occupation continues.
GUAM 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still use
as base. MINNESOTA 1898 (-?) Troops Army battles Chippewa
at Leech Lake. NICARAGUA 1898 Troops Marines land at port
of San Juan del Sur. SAMOA 1899 (-?) Troops Battle over
succession to throne. NICARAGUA 1899 Troops Marines land
at port of Bluefields. IDAHO 1899-1901 Troops Army
occupies Coeur d'Alene mining region. OKLAHOMA 1901 Troops
Army battles Creek Indian revolt. PANAMA 1901-14 Naval,
troops Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal Zone; Opened
canal 1914. HONDURAS 1903 Troops Marines intervene in
revolution. DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1903-04 Troops U.S.
interests protected in Revolution. KOREA 1904-05 Troops
Marines land in Russo-Japanese War. CUBA 1906-09 Troops
Marines land in democratic election. NICARAGUA 1907 Troops
"Dollar Diplomacy" protectorate set up. HONDURAS 1907 Troops
Marines land during war with Nicaragua PANAMA 1908 Troops
Marines intervene in election contest. NICARAGUA 1910
Troops Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto. HONDURAS 1911
Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war. CHINA 1911-41
Naval, troops Continuous occupation with flare-ups. CUBA
1912 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war. PANAMA
1912 Troops Marines land during heated election. HONDURAS
1912 Troops Marines protect U.S. economic interests. NICARAGUA
1912-33 Troops, bombing 10-year occupation, fought
guerillas MEXICO 1913 Naval Americans evacuated during
revolution. DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1914 Naval Fight with
rebels over Santo Domingo. COLORADO 1914 Troops Breaking
of miners' strike by Army. MEXICO 1914-18 Naval, troops
Series of interventions against nationalists.
HAITI 1914-34 Troops, bombing 19-year occupation after
revolts. TEXAS 1915 Troops Federal soldiers crush "Plan
of San Diego" Mexican-American rebellion
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1916-24 Troops 8-year Marine
occupation. CUBA 1917-33 Troops Military occupation,
economic protectorate. WORLD WAR I 1917-18 Naval, troops
Ships sunk, fought Germany for 1 1/2 years.
RUSSIA 1918-22 Naval, troops Five landings to fight
Bolsheviks PANAMA 1918-20 Troops "Police duty" during
unrest after elections. HONDURAS 1919 Troops Marines land
during election campaign. YUGOSLAVIA 1919 Troops/Marines
intervene for Italy against Serbs in Dalmatia.
GUATEMALA 1920 Troops 2-week intervention against
unionists. WEST VIRGINIA 1920-21 Troops, bombing Army
intervenes against mineworkers.
TURKEY 1922 Troops Fought nationalists in Smyrna.
CHINA 1922-27 Naval, troops Deployment during nationalist
revolt.

MEXICO

HONDURAS

Landed twice during election strife.
PANAMA 1925 Troops Marines suppress general strike.
CHINA 1927-34 Troops Marines stationed throughout the
country. EL SALVADOR 1932 Naval Warships send during
Marti revolt. WASHINGTON DC 1932 Troops Army stops WWI
vet bonus protest. WORLD WAR II 1941-45 Naval, troops,
bombing, nuclear Hawaii bombed, fought Japan, Italy and Germay for
3 years; first nuclear war. DETROIT 1943 Troops Army put
down Black rebellion. IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat Soviet
troops told to leave north. YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat,
naval Response to shoot-down of US plane. URUGUAY 1947
Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength. GREECE
1947-49 Command operation U.S. directs extreme-right in civil
war. GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable bombers
guard Berlin Airlift. CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines
evacuate Americans before Communist victory. PHILIPPINES 1948-54
Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion
crushed in Ponce.
KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats
U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in
1950, and against China in 1953. Still have bases.
IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy,
installs Shah. VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered
bombs to use against seige. GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation,
bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov't
nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep
out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners.
LEBANON l958 Troops, naval Army & Marine occupation
against rebels. IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned
against invading Kuwait. CHINA l958 Nuclear threat China
told not to move on Taiwan isles. PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag
protests erupt into confrontation. VIETNAM l960-75 Troops,
naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North
Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in
l968 and l969. CUBA l961 Command operation CIA-directed
exile invasion fails. GERMANY l961 Nuclear threat Alert
during Berlin Wall crisis. LAOS 1962 Command operation
Military buildup during guerrilla war.
CUBA l962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during
missile crisis;
near-war with Soviet Union.
IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that
killed
president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from
exile to be head of the secret service.
PANAMA l964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's
return. INDONESIA l965 Command operation Million killed
in CIA-assisted army coup.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1965-66 Troops, bombing Army & Marines
land during election campaign.
GUATEMALA l966-67 Command operation Green Berets
intervene against rebels.
DETROIT l967 Troops Army battles African Americans, 43
killed. UNITED STATES l968 Troops After King is shot;
over 21,000 soldiers in cities.
CAMBODIA l969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million
killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
OMAN l970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine
invasion. LAOS l971-73 Command operation, bombing U.S.
directs South Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside.
SOUTH DAKOTA l973 Command operation Army directs Wounded
Knee siege of Lakotas.
MIDEAST 1973 Nuclear threat World-wide alert during
Mideast War. CHILE 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup
ousts elected marxist president.
CAMBODIA l975 Troops, bombing Gassing of captured ship
Mayagüez, 28 troops die when copter shot down.
ANGOLA l976-92 Command operation CIA assists South
African-backed rebels. IRAN l980 Troops, nuclear threat,
aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in
copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not to get involved in revolution.
LIBYA l981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in
maneuvers. EL SALVADOR l981-92 Command operation, troops
Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in
hostage clash. NICARAGUA l981-90 Command operation, naval
CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against
revolution. LEBANON l982-84 Naval, bombing, troops
Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim
positions. 241 Marines killed when Shi'a rebel bombs barracks.
GRENADA l983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after
revolution. HONDURAS l983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build
bases near borders. IRAN l984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot
down over Persian Gulf. LIBYA l986 Bombing, naval Air
strikes to topple nationalist gov't. BOLIVIA 1986 Troops
Army assists raids on cocaine region. IRAN l987-88 Naval,
bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war. LIBYA 1989
Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down. VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989
Troops St. Croix Black unrest after storm. PHILIPPINES 1989
Jets Air cover provided for government against coup. PANAMA
1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by
27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed. LIBERIA 1990
Troops Foreigners evacuated during civil war. SAUDI ARABIA
1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait.
540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel. IRAQ
1990-91 Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and
Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and
Kuwait; large-scale destruction of Iraqi military.
KUWAIT 1991 Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family
returned to throne.
IRAQ 1991-2003 Bombing, naval No-fly zone over Kurdish
north,
Shiite south; constant air strikes and naval-enforced economic sanctions
LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed against
anti-police uprising.
SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United
Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu
faction. YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blockade of Serbia
and Montenegro. BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone
patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military
government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years
after coup. ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Troops at
Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where Congo revolution begins.
LIBERIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation
of foreigners. ALBANIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire
during evacuation of foreigners. SUDAN 1998 Missiles
Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be "terrorist" nerve gas
plant. AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA
training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have
attacked embassies. IRAQ 1998 Bombing, Missiles Four days
of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi
obstructions. YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Missiles Heavy
NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo. NATO
occupation of Kosovo. YEMEN 2000 Naval USS Cole, docked
in Aden, bombed. MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces
deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels.
UNITED STATES 2001 Jets, naval Reaction to hijacker
attacks on New York, DC
AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, bombing, missiles Massive U.S.
mobilization to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda fighters, install
Karzai regime, and battle Taliban insurgency. More than 30,000 U.S.
troops and numerous private security contractors carry our occupation.
YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile attack on Al
Qaeda, including a US citizen.
PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for
Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves into combat
missions in Sulu Archipelago, west of Mindanao.
COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel
zone to back up Colombian military protecting oil pipeline.
IRAQ 2003-? Troops, naval, bombing, missiles Saddam
regime toppled in Baghdad. More than 250,000 U.S. personnel participate
in invasion. US and UK forces occupy country and battle Sunni and
Shi'ite insurgencies. More than 160,000 troops and numerous private
contractors carry out occupation and build large permanent bases.
LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in peacekeeping
force as rebels drove out leader.
HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines & Army land after
right-wing rebels oust elected President Aristide, who was advised to
leave by Washington.
PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, bombing, covert operation CIA
missile and air strikes and Special Forces raids on alleged Al Qaeda and
Taliban refuge villages kill multiple civilians. Drone attacks also on
Pakistani Mehsud network.
SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, naval, troops, command operation
Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that topples Islamist
government; AC-130 strikes, Cruise missile attacks and helicopter raids
against Islamist rebels; naval blockade against "pirates" and
insurgents. SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in
helicopter raid 5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian civilians
YEMEN 2009-? Missiles, command operation Cruise missile
attack on Al Qaeda kills 49 civilians; Yemeni military assaults on
rebels LIBYA 2011-?


Yer dumber than I thought. States and territories?

I have a new policy. If the other debater is to stupid I will no longer
debate them so that anyone watching can't confuse us. You just be stupid on
your own.

IOW, your list speaks for itself.

Wars indeed. Duh.

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