On 10/8/2011 7:18 PM, RHF wrote:
On Oct 8, 5:13 pm, Thomas wrote:
Am 09.10.2011 00:23, schrieb RHF:







On Oct 8, 10:36 am, Thomas wrote:
Am 07.10.2011 00:07, schrieb RD Sandman:

Thomas wrote in news:9f4n06F18qU1
@mid.individual.net:

Your "state of security" is based on ignorant presumptions and a
willigness to abrogate your responsibility to yourself, your family
and
your fellow citizens.

That is blatant nonsense!
If you want less crime in your country, than it's better to solve a few
problems, than to send in troops.

I thought this conversation was about self defence of family, etc.. That
is not a call for troops.

Crimes are usually not unavoidable like bad weather.

Some crimes are. One can do a lot to avoid crimes like not getting
involved with gangs or drugs, but some trouble comes seeking you, not the
other way around.

(maybe I have to stick to my position. But I would agree with you somehow.)

But think about drugs, for example.

A drug is a substance, that people like to take, because it makes them a
bit relaxed, woozy or alike.

Usually the criminals don't want to make people woozy, but intend to get
money from them. To avoid drug related crimes, one should try to make it
harder, to gain something from selling drugs.

This could be done, if the drug itself is not the subject of prosecution
or the addictive person, but drug trafficking and trade.

The addictive person had to be cured, where possible and less people
should start new drug experiences.

- Than those, that remain addictive could
- be provided with the drugs in a kind of
- medical situation for free.

TH,

So then you would also Open 'RX' Bars and
Administer Unlimited Quantities of Alcohol
to Certified Habitual {Lifetime} Drunks
and Repeat DUI Drivers*.

* After Revoking their License to Drive
and Impounding their Car/Truck.

? What About Free* Cigarettes& Cigars for
All Who Can Not Quit Smoking !
* 'RX' Smoke Shops

? why should 'i' work all day and pay taxes
to support someone else not working; plus
pay for them to get high/loaded ?
=no=joy= =no=joy= =no=joy= ~ RHF
.

Alcohol is a drug in a way and cigarettes make quite addictive, but that
was not, what I meant with illegal drugs.
I mean stuff like crack or heroine. These create a certain kind of
physical addiction, that is very hard to cure and forces the addictive
person to use these substances, unless they want to get severe pain and
health problems.

Like any substance, the price depends. It is a question of the way,
these substances are produced and not of the stuff itself. In
Afghanistan a great deal of the raw material is produced. This could be
bought there for relatively moderate prices. The processing to a drug is
usual chemical work, that any good pharmaceutical plant could do.

- So the single dose could be provided for
- very low costs - in case the government
- would provide this. It should - of course
- be limited to real addictive people and
- in fact for free,

Alcoholics are 'real addictive people' too !

Equal [RX] Treatment Under the Law would
require Free Alcohol for Drunks
-if- Free Drugs is provided for Dopers.

Tobacco Smokers are 'real addictive people' too !

Equal [RX] Treatment Under the Law would
require Free Cigarettes/Cigars for Smokers
-if- Free Drugs is provided for Dopers.

-again- ? why should 'i' work all day and
pay taxes to support someone else not working;
pluspay for them to get high/loaded on
illegal drugs& alcohol& tobacco ?
=no=joy= =no=joy= =no=joy= ~ RHF
.
.

because the objective of
such activity is not, to help people to a woozy head, but to dry out the
market for such substances.

- The Dutch way of selling pot in cafés is
- in my eyes silly and not really helpful.
- Mariuana is not as harmless as many people
- think. It is from my impression very
- psychoactive and could create severe mental
- problems.

That It Can and M4* Mania Dave is a Prime
Example of such 'severe mental problems'.
-wrt-
"It's probably a good idea to practice
shooting whilst drunk, just in case you get
attacked in the middle of a 3 day blinder."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...02ec634082c010
-illegal-drugs-and-guns-don't-mix-[.]-
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...aa7e962a15003d

* Mucho** Medical-Marijuana Madness [.]

** Excessive Daily Long Term Use*** by
Non-Terminal Medical [RX] Patients.

*** -aka- Life-Long 'Habitual' Drug Addicts
.
.

TH

Well, I will agree with you, tobacco is very addictive, I really don't
care, I don't want to quit. My doctor has already offered me various
"therapy's", tranquilizers, etc. to quit smoking -- truth is, I don't
want to quit ... but if and when I do, I won't even think twice about
asking him for help ... my doctor is near 65, doesn't smoke and thinks
the dangers of tobacco are greatly over-blown ... but, NOT TOTALLY
WITHOUT RISK ... he always starts out, "The law requires me to tell you
this ..."

But, for right now, I am going to step out on the porch and blow off a
great cigar ...

Regards,
JS