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D Peter Maus[_2_]

On 10/11/11 16:40 , John Smith wrote:
On 10/11/2011 11:02 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 10/11/11 11:52 , John Smith wrote:
On 10/11/2011 8:16 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 10/11/11 01:15 , John Smith wrote:
On 10/10/2011 2:30 PM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 10/10/11 16:27 , Alan Baker wrote:
In ,
John wrote:

Your post is an excellent example of what I have found about
"Apple
People", they have a religious devotion to the platform ...

Your post is an excellent example of someone who believes that
anyone
who sees value where you do not must do it out of religious
devotion...

Personally, the only reason I use a PC, and refuse MAC's, is
that I
write much of the software I use ... plus, I private
contract to
develop
software on multiple platforms (even though I am retired, for
the
most
part) ... while most of that could be done on a MAC, it simply
would not
make economic sense, for me ... I mean, I am in the business to
make
money -- NOT pay money to apple ... apple has worked hard in
being one
of the most proprietary corps I have ever seen, I think they
can
do that
without me ...

In what way is the Mac more "proprietary" than Windows from your
perspective? The fact that they've always sold computers with
their own
OS? You can write software for that platform just as you can for
Windows
or for Linux.

Windows doesn't hold patents on the hardware, to run their
software,
just for starters ... and, they don't have an iphone, or even an
idildo,
for that matter! ROFLOL

So?

Apple's suddenly an evil empire because they make hardware and
Microsoft
doesn't?

Actually, you have missed the point, gotten off track, the
conversation
I seen was focused on fools and overpaying for the same bang less
buck
will do ...

It isn't that apple is evil for taking fools money, the fools
always
end
up giving it to some one ... nor are the fools evil ... evil just
doesn't really apply.

If fools willingly give you money, I am not aware of any crimes
which
have been broken, nor evil criminals at fault ... I mean, like,
DUH!

Regards,
JS

As I said:

How arrogant to assume that anyone who sees value in what you do not
must be a fool...

It's a cultural standard, today.

Hey, I am not the one into social standards!

You apparently aren't into reading, either. I said nothing about social
standards. I responded to the comment about the arrogance of dismissal
of values not one's own. THAT is a cultural standard, today.

I freely admit that a MAC can do anything a PC can do ... the PC can
just do it faster, cheaper and usually better ...

Which exactly explains why there are so many Windows PC's at JPL.

You may not have said the exact words, but if the point that this/these
argument(s)/discussion(s), for many, is centering around computers as
status symbols and the ownership being regarded, by some, as some kind
of social status standard, then I am at a loss for words ... as it seems
quite apparent to me.

I didn't even address the issue of social status. ReRead carefully. I
addressed the issue of the technique of dismissing someone's position as
foolish because it doesn't agree with one's own. THAT is a cultural
standard, today.

Who owns which computer? Who gives a ****. I have computers running
Macintosh, Linux and Windows. Status doesn't enter into it.

Please be more diligent in discerning what someone is saying before you
actually attempt to rebut it. It would be nice to engage in a discussion
in which you are actually on the same topic.

Indeed, since the argument/statement(s) of MAC supporters has totally
ignored the ease of upgrading, the diversity of hardware offered, the
abundance of freeware supplied, the ease of codecs to play any possibly
imagined media, multiple and numerous apps offered for every possible
task/job/use, etc., ON THE PC PLATFORM -- while there is a noticeable
lack of these, and only at a notable expense -- obtainable on the apple
platform

You need to spend some time with the Macintosh platform. I have
applications of every size, purpose, and variation on my business
machines. Only a handful of these applications did I have to pay retail
for. The rest are all open source share- or free-ware. And all of the
installed with a simple drag-and-drop. And all work without difficulty.

Any software application I require is available in many forms, from
multiple developers, on the Macintosh platform.

... all we are left with is the MAC as a status symbol and ego
trip ... no one really has to "say anything", one only needs to examine
past text in this thread for proof of that statement.

Or, simply, anyone can say anything, in the end, you can just look at it
and see what it really is ...

That's a good point. But you should really, again, investigate before
you comment.

Your information, is incorrect.

On second look, you are actually quite correct, your text was just
meaningless babble which I attempted to attribute some sense of
importance and meaning to ... I stand corrected ...

Right back atcha, Buckwheat.

Regards,
JS