"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 10/10/2011 11:44 PM, Scout wrote:


"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 10/10/2011 3:02 PM, Scout wrote:


"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article ,
John Smith wrote:

then sold them the software for
exorbitant prices ... signed them into exploitative contracts,
etc.

Really? And they signed these contracts with the children?
Because I was
under the impression that schools had people who were qualified
to agree
to such contracts...

Contracts which stipulated only apple people maintained the
college
hardware ... etc., etc. Games within games, really.

Then they were free not to sign them, weren't they? Ergo: not
strongarmed at all.


Back in the late 80's and early 90's I taught at a jr. college,
I seen
first hand how apples predatory sales techniques worked.

Clearly.


Finally, at the college, a few of us wrote letters of complaint
to the
"higher ups" and rectified the problem ... there was also some
business
of "incentives" being passed about about by apple to those who
controlled purchasing ... lunches, wining and dining, etc.
However,
digital equipment corporation also participated in such
practices ...
(DEC)

However, one thing I did notice, the "apple room" was always
full of
liberal arts students while the PC sections of the computer labs
always
contained the math, physics, science, etc. students ... just as
a casual
observation ...

Riiiiiiiight.


Regards,
JS


Your post is an excellent example of what I have found about
"Apple
People", they have a religious devotion to the platform ...

Your post is an excellent example of someone who believes that
anyone
who sees value where you do not must do it out of religious
devotion...


Personally, the only reason I use a PC, and refuse MAC's, is that
I
write much of the software I use ... plus, I private contract to
develop
software on multiple platforms (even though I am retired, for the
most
part) ... while most of that could be done on a MAC, it simply
would not
make economic sense, for me ... I mean, I am in the business to
make
money -- NOT pay money to apple ... apple has worked hard in being
one
of the most proprietary corps I have ever seen, I think they can
do that
without me ...

In what way is the Mac more "proprietary" than Windows from your
perspective? The fact that they've always sold computers with their
own
OS? You can write software for that platform just as you can for
Windows
or for Linux.


Windows doesn't hold patents on the hardware, to run their software,
just for starters ... and, they don't have an iphone, or even an
idildo,
for that matter! ROFLOL

So?

Apple's suddenly an evil empire because they make hardware and
Microsoft
doesn't?

Actually Microsoft does make hardware. Mice, keyboards, headsets,
webcams, and even fingerprint readers.

True they don't build systems, but they do produce certain types of
hardware. They even patent certain aspects of that hardware. Such as
the
tilt wheel mouse.

Hell, back in 2008, they received a patent for the page up and page
down
keys. (Patent #7,415,666)




Actually, the problem might be semantics, here.

But, I would like to have my ignorance and false beliefs removed. So,
enlighten me, where are the microsoft manufacturing plants which are
making these these things -- mice, keyboards, headsets, webcams, even
fingerprint readers?

All I am aware of is microsoft lending their name to products which
other companies manufacture ... except software, they do produce that,
themselves ... they even hire employees to make it, the software.

http://www.marke****ch.com/story/cor...make-new-zunes


You figure out where the rest are. If it is done with their name, then
they are the manufacturer.




Yeah, thought so, this from that page:

"The original Zune, released in November, was produced using a framework
and components provided by Toshiba Corp. Reindorp said the company hopes
that by taking a more direct role in manufacturing a second version, it
will help the device gain popularity."

Yep, and you think the Mac is made by Apple?

Hate to tell you but virtually all of the components in an Mac are made by
someone else.

The Ipad is no different.

Looks like you are simply looking for something to make an issue of, and
ignoring that apple works exactly the same way.