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			On 10/9/2011 9:39 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: 
 On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:00:38 -0400, Michael  
 wrote: 
 In in the professional world, no one seems to add the labor cost of the 
 armies of support personnel needed to keep the Windows machines running. 
 Adds a tad to the price. 
 
 I don't have much contact with IT except when they get into trouble. 
 As far as I can determine, most of IT consists of supporting users, 
 not machines.  As near as I can determine, the level of user support 
 is about equal, whether Windoze, Mac, or Linux. 
 
 	- 73 de Mike N3LI - 
 
 
The support costs I've noticed, starting with IBM 360/65 (1973), are  
people followed by people followed by people.  Somewhere below the  
people is hardware. 
 
Been in the middle of it since 1975 starting as a programming assistant  
in a college data center.  Where we presented decks to the priests. 
 
As a programming assistant the most frequent things I saw were questions  
from the grad students like - "How do I make it fit?", "How do I make it  
fast?", "Why doesn't it work?".  Users who would spend 18 hours a day  
dug into the math of what they were trying to solve, but refused to  
spend 4 hours once learning the tool they used to solve the simulations. 
 
I knew nothing of what they were trying to prove.  But I always managed  
to get the programs to fit, run fast as possible, and not "doesn't work". 
 
Some things never change. 
 
tom 
K0TAR 
 
Disclaimer - this comment is about academics and offices, not data centers. 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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