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Old October 13th 11, 09:48 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,rec.sport.golf,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.guns
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Default (OT) Steve Jobs.

On 10/13/11 3:13 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:

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On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:03:20 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:



That's not the business Apple is in; they sell a
lifestyle of form
[over] substance



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Besides, Apple was extant in the market before PC's (the
original
Apple
computer was something like $3000, a clone was about
$2300, IIRC).
Apple
maintained a following and indeed an increasing market
base even
after
PC's got so cheap that most anyone could afford one.

If someone likes a product enough to pay what seems to be an
exhorbitant
price for it, even in the face of a much cheaper
alternative, then
that
is what they call "market forces" in operation. The
consumer, in
this
case, has actually set the price by buying the product.
If nobody
were
buying it, it would either become cheaper or taken off
the market.

They subsidised and strongarmed their way into schools; a
whole
generation equated Apple with computing. It's definitely a
fashion
thing.
I was the IT guy at a TV network west coast headquarters.
All the
"creative" types insisted on iMacs; they refused to work
on windows
machines (this is for typing-not editing). Hollywood
creative types
are
insufferable boors.

Of course... ...someone insisting on a product must be a
"fashion
thing".

How exactly did Apple "strongarm" their way into schools.

Perhaps this genius can also explain why more and more college
students
in science and engineering are switching to Macs? Of their
own free
will, that is. And not to use Windoze on them, either.

What is Apple at now - 11%, third largest, up from less than
5% four
years ago?

Intel won.




Linux is surely the equal, or better, of windows -- however, it
is a tad
bit more difficult to use (unbutu perhaps breaks that rule) and
is just
as prone to viruses and such, if used by people without proper
education
and/or a virus/malware scanner ...

If Linux is "surely the equal, or better, of Windows", then Mac
OS X is
surely the superior of Windows, because it is surely the better
of Linux.

It offers all that Linux offers and is easier to use.

Keep trying. The world runs on Windows.

Keep trying - increasingly it does not. Check Apple's rapidly growing
market share. More importantly, I can tell you more and more college
students in technical fields like science and engineering are using Macs
these days. Programming in Matlab, Maple, Mathematica is the norm now,
and they all run perfectly on OS X. Plus they get all the benefits of OS
X in other applications, too. When these kids hit the job market, the
trend will simply continue.


I can tell you that at my large international corporation we are still
not embracing Apple on the desktop. We are running Windows and Linux and
we will soon be running dumb tubes, throw back to the 70's, on the
desktop. There is no reason to put a high dollar, high end computer on
everyone's desktop to run e-mail, surfing, and spreadsheets and
documents.

We are embracing the iPad primarily because we can use it to get to VMs
and because we can run web enabled applications. You can effectively
take your desktop anywhere. These are the only two requirements of a
"pad" that we need. As soon as something cheaper than the iPad is
available we will officially support that and may even provide it to our
users.

The desktop only needs to be a tube, keyboard, and mouse with a
connection to our network.


Amazon is supposedly coming out with a $200 dollar upgrade to the Nook
that will go directly against the IPad.
It will be running Android and will be open architecture.
Time to start looking at a short on Apple


I guess paying attention, or having a clue isn't part of your daily
life. Amazon is coming out with a new Kindle Fire (note that Nook is
from B&N) that is based on Android but is NOT open architecture. It is
tightly tied to Amazon.


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Lloyd