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On 10/12/2011 11:37 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
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On 10/10/2011 2:30 PM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 10/10/11 16:27 , Alan Baker wrote:
In ,
John wrote:

Your post is an excellent example of what I have found
about
"Apple
People", they have a religious devotion to the platform
...

Your post is an excellent example of someone who believes
that
anyone
who sees value where you do not must do it out of
religious
devotion...


Personally, the only reason I use a PC, and refuse MAC's,
is
that I
write much of the software I use ... plus, I private
contract
to
develop
software on multiple platforms (even though I am retired,
for
the
most
part) ... while most of that could be done on a MAC, it
simply
would not
make economic sense, for me ... I mean, I am in the
business
to
make
money -- NOT pay money to apple ... apple has worked hard
in
being one
of the most proprietary corps I have ever seen, I think
they
can
do that
without me ...

In what way is the Mac more "proprietary" than Windows
from
your
perspective? The fact that they've always sold computers
with
their own
OS? You can write software for that platform just as you
can
for
Windows
or for Linux.


Windows doesn't hold patents on the hardware, to run their
software,
just for starters ... and, they don't have an iphone, or
even
an
idildo,
for that matter! ROFLOL

So?

Apple's suddenly an evil empire because they make hardware
and
Microsoft
doesn't?


Actually, you have missed the point, gotten off track, the
conversation
I seen was focused on fools and overpaying for the same bang
less
buck
will do ...

It isn't that apple is evil for taking fools money, the fools
always end
up giving it to some one ... nor are the fools evil ... evil
just
doesn't really apply.

If fools willingly give you money, I am not aware of any
crimes
which
have been broken, nor evil criminals at fault ... I mean,
like,
DUH!

Regards,
JS

As I said:

How arrogant to assume that anyone who sees value in what you
do
not
must be a fool...


It's a cultural standard, today.




Hey, I am not the one into social standards!

I freely admit that a MAC can do anything a PC can do ... the PC
can
just do it faster, cheaper and usually better ...

Really? Better in what way? Give a concrete example...


Snap in a high end NVIDIA or ATI card into our PC with a high res
HD
monitor, sit in next to a MAC ... you will see what I mean ... do
the
same with audio ...

You mean, like this:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-quadro-4000-mac-us.html

No like this.

http://www.geforce.com/Hardware/GPUs...specifications

CUDA cores 1024 vs 256 for the Mac
Memory 3Gb vs 2 Gb for the Mac
Memory Interface 768 bit vs 256 bit for the Mac
Memory Bandwidth 327.7 Gb/s vs 89.6Gb/s for the Mac


snip

Like he said, Mac can't compete.


LOL

No, Scout: Nvidia has *chosen* not to compete... ...for now.

Last quarter, Mac sales were up to 13% in the US. Think about that.

a 13% increase of a small number.....is still a small number.

Mac sales constitute about 4.5% of all new PC sales.

BFD

No, no.

Mac sales didn't increase by 13%. Mac sales in the US were 13% of all
personal computers sold in the last quarter.

Wrong, that is the amount sales have increased.

Incorrect.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ow_13_of_us_ma
rket_as_ipad_snags_dollars_away_from_pcs.html


Mac sales still only constitute about 4.5% of total PC sales.

Not in the US they don't. You should learn to read.


PC sales in Q2 2011
"Overall, the number of units reached 85 million, of which HP, Dell, Lenovo,
Acer and ASUS accounted for 17.5%, 12.5%, 12%, 10.9% and 5.2%,
respectively."

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Gartn...se-in-Q2-2011-
211780.shtml

Meanwhile: Mac sales a

Mac sales in Q2 2011
"Mac sales increased 28 percent from last year, with 3.76 million sold"

http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-q2-201...lso-sold-4-69-
million-ipads/

3.76/85 = 4.4%

So sales are actually less than my estimate of 4.5%

That's a LONG way from the 13% you assert.

You should learn to read.


No, bubba, sales of Macs increased by 13% (probably from Q1 2011) not that
Mac sales constitute 13% of all PC sales.

In the U.S. You should learn to read.


IOW, sales of Mac increased from about 3.25 Million to 3.76 Million per
quarter.

Incorrect. Your a quarter behind.



But next to total PC sales of 85 Million.....that's a pretty minimal change
representing a difference of only about 0.6% increase in market share for
that quarter.

You should take into consideration that some considerable number of
non-Mac PCs are bought for non-personal computer use in industrial
applications, etc.


Further if we look the BULK of Mac sales are the mobiles. Desktop Mac sales
continue to drop off.

"Apple sold 2.75 million laptops, compared to 1.01 million desktops, with
laptops accounting for 73 percent of Mac sales for the quarter. By the end
of the calendar year, it's likely three out of four Macs sold will be
portables. The inexorable trend towards niche status for desktops
continues."

http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-q2-201...lso-sold-4-69-
million-ipads/

Seems people don't want a Mac sitting on their computer desk, unless they
can walk away with it.

Laptops are on the rise all over, silly.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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