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On 10/12/2011 11:37 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
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On 10/10/2011 2:30 PM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 10/10/11 16:27 , Alan Baker wrote:
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John wrote:
Your post is an excellent example of what I have found
about
"Apple
People", they have a religious devotion to the
platform
...
Your post is an excellent example of someone who
believes
that
anyone
who sees value where you do not must do it out of
religious
devotion...
Personally, the only reason I use a PC, and refuse
MAC's,
is
that I
write much of the software I use ... plus, I private
contract
to
develop
software on multiple platforms (even though I am
retired,
for
the
most
part) ... while most of that could be done on a MAC,
it
simply
would not
make economic sense, for me ... I mean, I am in the
business
to
make
money -- NOT pay money to apple ... apple has worked
hard
in
being one
of the most proprietary corps I have ever seen, I
think
they
can
do that
without me ...
In what way is the Mac more "proprietary" than Windows
from
your
perspective? The fact that they've always sold
computers
with
their own
OS? You can write software for that platform just as
you
can
for
Windows
or for Linux.
Windows doesn't hold patents on the hardware, to run
their
software,
just for starters ... and, they don't have an iphone, or
even
an
idildo,
for that matter! ROFLOL
So?
Apple's suddenly an evil empire because they make
hardware
and
Microsoft
doesn't?
Actually, you have missed the point, gotten off track, the
conversation
I seen was focused on fools and overpaying for the same
bang
less
buck
will do ...
It isn't that apple is evil for taking fools money, the
fools
always end
up giving it to some one ... nor are the fools evil ...
evil
just
doesn't really apply.
If fools willingly give you money, I am not aware of any
crimes
which
have been broken, nor evil criminals at fault ... I mean,
like,
DUH!
Regards,
JS
As I said:
How arrogant to assume that anyone who sees value in what
you
do
not
must be a fool...
It's a cultural standard, today.
Hey, I am not the one into social standards!
I freely admit that a MAC can do anything a PC can do ... the
PC
can
just do it faster, cheaper and usually better ...
Really? Better in what way? Give a concrete example...
Snap in a high end NVIDIA or ATI card into our PC with a high
res
HD
monitor, sit in next to a MAC ... you will see what I mean ...
do
the
same with audio ...
You mean, like this:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-quadro-4000-mac-us.html
No like this.
http://www.geforce.com/Hardware/GPUs...specifications
CUDA cores 1024 vs 256 for the Mac
Memory 3Gb vs 2 Gb for the Mac
Memory Interface 768 bit vs 256 bit for the Mac
Memory Bandwidth 327.7 Gb/s vs 89.6Gb/s for the Mac
snip
Like he said, Mac can't compete.
LOL
No, Scout: Nvidia has *chosen* not to compete... ...for now.
Last quarter, Mac sales were up to 13% in the US. Think about that.
a 13% increase of a small number.....is still a small number.
Mac sales constitute about 4.5% of all new PC sales.
BFD
No, no.
Mac sales didn't increase by 13%. Mac sales in the US were 13% of all
personal computers sold in the last quarter.
Wrong, that is the amount sales have increased.
Incorrect.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ow_13_of_us_ma
rket_as_ipad_snags_dollars_away_from_pcs.html
Read your own source.
"Apple's Mac now 13% of US market as iPad snags dollars away from PCs"
It should be noted that the iPad is NOT a Mac, as such Mac sales do NOT
constitute 13% of all PC sales.
And the source was not counting iPads as Macs. It was noting that there
is a class of non-Mac personal computers that people are buying less of:
netbooks; instead they're buying iPads.
In the personal computer sales area, that means fewer non-Mac PCs which,
in conjunction with rising Mac sales, means a greater percentage of Macs.
Mac sales still only constitute about 4.5% of total PC sales.
Not in the US they don't. You should learn to read.
PC sales in Q2 2011
"Overall, the number of units reached 85 million, of which HP, Dell,
Lenovo,
Acer and ASUS accounted for 17.5%, 12.5%, 12%, 10.9% and 5.2%,
respectively."
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Gartn...-Rose-in-Q2-20
11-
211780.shtml
Meanwhile: Mac sales a
Mac sales in Q2 2011
"Mac sales increased 28 percent from last year, with 3.76 million sold"
http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-q2-201...e-also-sold-4-
69-
million-ipads/
3.76/85 = 4.4%
So sales are actually less than my estimate of 4.5%
That's a LONG way from the 13% you assert.
You should learn to read.
I think you should consider following your own advice since I looked at Mac
sales as specified while your source includes iPad sales and who knows what
else as "Mac sales".
Don't blame me if your headliner writer can't tell the different between a
Mac and an iPad, or that you're too stupid to notice the difference.
I blame you for misreading the article.
No, bubba, sales of Macs increased by 13% (probably from Q1 2011) not
that
Mac sales constitute 13% of all PC sales.
In the U.S. You should learn to read.
IOW, sales of Mac increased from about 3.25 Million to 3.76 Million per
quarter.
Incorrect. Your a quarter behind.
Somehow I doubt 1 quarter is going to significantly alter the numbers, my
proofs, my conclusions, or bolster your BS assertion that Mac sales
constitute 13% of all PC sales.
The original sources was Gartner:
"Preliminary United States PC Vendor Unit Shipment Estimates for 3Q11
(Units)
Company 3Q11 Shipments 3Q11 Market Share (%)
HP 5,132,614 28.9
Dell 3,886,864 21.9
Apple 2,300,000 12.9"
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1821731
And, yeah:
"Note: Data includes desk-based PCs, mobile PCs, including
mini-notebooks but not media tablets such as the iPad. "
Which explains the headline just as I said.
You lose.
But next to total PC sales of 85 Million.....that's a pretty minimal
change
representing a difference of only about 0.6% increase in market share for
that quarter.
You should take into consideration that some considerable number of
non-Mac PCs are bought for non-personal computer use in industrial
applications, etc.
Agreed, but that should be included in the above numbers as long as they are
actual personal computers and not computer based controls.
Why?
Further if we look the BULK of Mac sales are the mobiles. Desktop Mac
sales
continue to drop off.
"Apple sold 2.75 million laptops, compared to 1.01 million desktops, with
laptops accounting for 73 percent of Mac sales for the quarter. By the
end
of the calendar year, it's likely three out of four Macs sold will be
portables. The inexorable trend towards niche status for desktops
continues."
http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-q2-201...e-also-sold-4-
69-
million-ipads/
Seems people don't want a Mac sitting on their computer desk, unless they
can walk away with it.
Laptops are on the rise all over, silly.
Yep, which doesn't refute my point.
What was your point, then?
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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