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Old December 11th 03, 10:19 AM
Simon
 
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Thanks alot for your quick replies guys,

As far as I know 433.92MHz is license exempt throughout Europe, if you
know otherwise let me know, but I've seen it written on the suppliers
website, so I'm inclined to believe them, plus I'm sure I used
transmitters at that frequency for a university project, but that was
a few years back, so I could be mistaken.

I'll look up the Yagi design, and see what I can build, would placing
a yagi inside a horn shaped tube be worthwhile, to get the best of
both worlds? or would a setup like that not benefit directional
transmission, my thoughts here are if a horn shaped tube almost works
and a Yagi antenna almost work, then together, they might give the
results I'm looking for. In an ideal situation I'd like to get the
transmission beam down to 1 degree, 10 degrees might be acceptable I'm
not sure.

My final point is that I've also seen 868Mhz transmitters, assuming no
license is required for these, could this frequency be used to create
a directional transmission more easily than the 433MHz?

Thanks again and sorry for my ignorance,

Simon.

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Hi,
I'm playing around with some 433MHz transmitter and receiver pairs.
Ideally I would like the transmitter to transmit in a narrow
directional beam, but I'm new to the art of radio waves and antenna
design, so I was wondering if you guys would be able to help me with
my project. I've read about a Yagi design for the antenna, I know it
receives from one direction only, but does it transmit in just one
direction too?


Yes, antennas have the same directionality transmitting and receiving.

I thought I'd be able to basically stick the transmitter antenna in a
tube, sealed at one end, line either the inside or outside of the tube
with tin foil (or both) and it would transmit in whatever direction
the open end was facing. So far my tests haven't been too conclusive
but could that be poor setup on my part or


----is the idea fundamentally flawed?----

Yes. You could do it, but you'd probably want a horn-shaped tube, and
the diameter at the outer end would have to be large compared with the
wavelength to do much good. You'll probably find the Yagi a lot
easier to do, using common materials like some 3/4" PVC pipe with
holes drilled through it, and ordinary 12-gauge or 10-gauge solid
copper wire put through the holes. You can use bare wire or wire with
insulation. The elements (wires) are only about 13-14 inches long, so
wire like that will be stiff enough to hold its shape well when
supported in the middle by the PVC (or a wood dowel, or...use your
imagination for other ideas). You should be able to find construction
ideas for Yagis on the web. You can scale the size with frequency
(size1*freq1=size2*freq2), but be sure to scale the element diameters
at least approximately, and not just the lengths and spacings. (Don't
use an 0.1" diameter wire if the plans call for 0.5" at that
frequency.)

Cheers,
Tom