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Old January 19th 12, 05:41 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Jeff Liebermann[_2_] Jeff Liebermann[_2_] is offline
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:13:07 +0100, Ben / SM0KBW wrote:

I'm interested to do some experiment with the stress dish concept:
http://www.nitehawk.com/432_MHz_EME/port_dish.pdf


That works for a few days. The problem with reflectors under tension
is that they don't stay in any stable position. The aluminum mesh is
the worst because it moves with temperature. If you look carefully at
various mesh reflectors available, they're usually galvanized steel.
However, at 1.2Ghz, the tolerances are much less than at X band or Ku
band, so it will probably work.

The antenna is to be used at my country cottage, I don't want to convert
it to a modern communication centre


The uglier the antenna, the better it works. Nice looking antennas
just don't seem to function as well as ugly kludges. Might as well
resign yourself to building an eyesore.

In the winter there are storms
and it can snow heavily at occasions. The stress dish would be perfect
to do some experiment with in the summer period and then put it aside
for the winter.


My I suggest an infaltable dish antenna? (I'm not joking).
http://www.gatr.com
http://www.qsl.net/pe1rah/RAHdish.htm
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=1203415
If you want it out of the way when the neigbhors arrive to protest,
and inflatable antenna structure might be the answer.

Another design I tried (and discarded) for the WEFAX antenna might be
worth raising from the dead. Instead of a dish, it's a parbolic
"strip" reflector. It was in the shape of a parabola in one axis (as
enforced by several sheets of plywood cut into a parabola like shape),
but was less than 1 meter wide. The idea was to obtain the same
surface area as a large antenna, but with a very different aspect
ratio. That makes it much easier to build, ship, and assemble. I'll
see if I can excavate some photos.

4m in diameter is the plan, I expect a gain just below 30dB, if I'm lucky.


That's a reasonable size without becoming monsterous. No clue if
you'll get 30dB. I could do the calcs, but I'm busy right now.
http://www.antenna-theory.com/antennas/reflectors/dish3.php
Use 50% of the overall efficiency.

The noise would be a real problem as the ultimate goal is to use the
antenna in EME works. Maybe a traditional galvanized chicken net is a
better choice? There are nets with 13*13 mm, around 1/17 lambda witch
should be OK.


I'm not sure, but I think anything under 1/10 wavelength should work.
Welded galvanized steel mesh should be fine.

Nicely built 4.5 meter dish:
http://www.keplerian.com/dish/4.5m_dish.html

Gotta run...

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