Looka here ilk, as purr usual,I went to Google and I typed rec.radio.shortwave and up popped a page that was mostly blank and in the top left corner of that page it said Undefined. I tried it again and the same same thingy happed. Then I went to Google again and I typed Google Groups. I saw where it said Recently Viewed and I clicked on that and then I saw where it said rec.radio.shortwave and I clicked on that and here I am finally in rec.radio.shortwave. Sheesh, I have never had to go through all that red tape before to get in here! They screwin with the Mope, man,,, they screwin with the Mope! Mope wah, Mope dep, Mope buku kilo!