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Old July 5th 12, 06:19 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Default Dipole-2 different wire sizes?

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Ian" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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The number of radials is the power dependent. More power radiated more
electrons must be taken from a ground.
Do you agree?
S*

Good morning Szczepan.
Here are two questions for you to ponder:
How many radials are needed for a receiving aerial?


It is power dependent.


No, it is not, it is ground conductivity dependant and has nothing to do
with power and they are ONLY needed for end fed monopoles.

Are liquids massless?


Ask Heaviside.


Heaviside has been dead for 87 years, but he did live long enough to
learn that there is no such thing as a massless liquid.

You will never live long enough to understand that.

Here is something to learn - the monopole and dipole are two different
aerials.


I did:
"The dipole antenna, which is the basis for most antenna designs, is a
balanced component, with equal but opposite voltages and currents applied at
its two terminals through a balanced transmission line (or to a coaxial
transmission line through a so-called balun)."


OK so far.

The dipole antenna is the two monopoles.


Now you are starting to drift off into la-la land again.

" The vertical antenna, on the other hand, is a monopole antenna. It is
typically connected to the inner conductor of a coaxial transmission line
(or a matching network); the shield of the transmission line is connected to
ground."


OK again.

If the antenna has the two legs and the one leg is connected to the shield
of the coax we have the monopole.


No, you do not.

You glossed right over the part in your own qoute that says: "or to a coaxial
transmission line through a so-called balun".

"In this way, the ground (or any large conductive surface) plays the role of
the second conductor of a dipole, thereby forming a complete circuit.[3]
Since monopole antennas rely on a conductive ground, a so-called grounding
structure may be employed to provide a better ground contact to the earth or
which itself acts as a ground plane to perform that function regardless of
(or in absence of) an actual contact with the earth." From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_(radio)


And again, you don't get it.

The above quote is talking about end fed monopoles and ONLY end fed
monopoles and has NOTHING to do with dipoles.


So: " It means that a dipole fed from a coax is the monopole (a quarter
wave) with the counterpoise." is right.
Do you agree?


No.

Once again you show you are incapable of reading and understanding your
own quotes.