A couple of other thingys, igugu.com and catchthewavetv.com or do some Googles for them. Seeeee, what it T'IS, y'all oughts to try out those devices and then let doggy and I know if they are any Good. And also Free To Air TV. http://www.lyngsat.com See can you get ahold of Bill Richardson in Evansville,Indiana. He knows about Free Tto Air TV. No monthly fees with Free To Air TV. Google it.