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Old May 4th 13, 07:40 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Ian Jackson[_2_] Ian Jackson[_2_] is offline
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Default Anyone know where I can find plans for an artificial ground?

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Wayne" napisal w wiadomosci
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# It is not my theory. Somebody wrote:
# "H. Horizontal, unbalanced antennas, such as a long wire or random wire,
# need an RF Ground wire that should be 10-15% longer than the antenna
wire
# itself. This is often called a counterpoise. The RF ground wire in this
case
# can be laid out in many ways, just so long as it does not cross over
itself
# to form a loop. Indoors, such wires are often run under carpets or along
# walls, out of windows, or anywhere else convenient. This wire will often
# have large RF voltages on it, so it should be kept away from people or
# insulated to prevent contact." From:
#
http://www.sgcworld.com/radialstechnote.html

# Your "dipoles" are "horizontal, unbalanced antennas". The radial or
# counterpoise "should be kept away from people or insulated to prevent
# contact."

It appears that your reference above from SGC contradicts your single
radial assertion.

For a half wave antenna broken in the center, you claim that the half
connected to the coax braid is a radial.
If it is a radial, why does it have high voltage at the end, behaving like
a dipole?


""Marconi, who discovered if he attached one terminal of his transmitter to
a
wire suspended in the air and the other to the Earth, he could transmit for
longer distances".


For certain types of antennas.

Most of the antennas that exist today did not exist in Marconi'e lifetime.

Each transmittel as a source of AC produces the high voltage at the both
ends.


Both ends of what?

If the one end is in the soil you have the monopooe antenna.


Maybe.

But next Marconi discovered that the radials are better than the soil.


Only under certain conditions.

You should understand that 120 radials have lower voltage than one radiator.


Babbling nonsense.

Also one radial from your "dipole" connetced in series with the shield has
lower voltage.


Babbling nonsense.

Have you posibility to measure the VSWR on the both legs your "dipole"?


This is an idiotic question that shows you haven't the slightest clue
how antennas work.

Actually, some of the amusing babbling nonsense does occasionally have a
small grain of sense. And even if it obviously IS nonsense, can we
always say precisely why it is?

If a dipole is fed directly with coax, is the power (voltage and
current) into each leg the same? If not, why not?

Again, if a dipole is fed directly with coax, and if you could insert an
SWR meter at the feed into each leg, would the two readings be the same.
If not, why not?
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Ian