On 8/8/2013 11:27 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

These lamps do produce some heat, so they can't be used in closed
fixtures, but they don't generate more heat than the comparable
incandescent.

Huh? You say "they don't generate more heat than the comparable
incandescent." Even though you say they don't generate -more- heat, are
you implying that they generate heat -equal- to incandescent? If so,
that seems high, as a 50 w incandescent gives off 40-45 watts of heat.

Do they run hotter than the CFLs?

Even though they said don't use the CFLs in a closed fixture, I've had
two 60 watt equivalent CFLs in a hallway closed fixture and two more of
the same in an enclosed kitchen fixture. They've been there for almost a
year and have not yet burned out...or burned the house down, to say
nothing of using 1/4 of the power -- only 30 watts trapped in the
fixtures, not 120 watts.

Ultimately, LEDs will probably be the answer as soon as they get the
power up a bit more and the price down a bit more...although the price
you pointed out is pretty good.