On 9/2/2013 3:55 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 9/2/2013 12:59 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 9/2/2013 12:01 AM, wrote:

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$100 Hong Kong is $12.89 US; I doubt you will find many VHF marine
radios $12.89 US.


There are amateur radios available for $500 HK. That is not out of
the question.

$500 is 5 times $100, which is the amount in question.


Yup. Glad to see you can do multiplication. Shall we try division now?


Shall we try to pay attention to what was written, i.e. radios for $100?


Exactly. And there are some awfully cheap radios coming from China
nowadays. Like this one:
http://www.radioddity.com/us/baofeng...ham-radio.html

Easily within the $100-500 HK.

And I don't know what other countries use the dollar, but I'm sure there
are.

I already told you what they are.


That's all of them? I know you didn't mention Hong Kong in your earlier
post.

I didn't mention all of them because the exchange rate make a $100 radio
a ludicrous idea.


Like the one I mentioned above? And are ALL Asian exchange rates the
same? I don't think so.


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Which does not mean short stations do not have to be licensed. They
still do.

Yes, but the original question was about monitoring, and no license is
required for that.


No, but then you don't need a transceiver on land, either. A simple
scanner will suffice.

Likely, but he also specifically said he might want to use it on his boat.

Which would indicate a transceiver.


However, he specifically is asking about installing a radio. To me this
means he wants to monitor the *trip*, not the frequency - and to do so
is interested in talking to those in the kayaks. Why else would he be
asking about installing a radio, instead of just a receiver?

Because:

1. A scanner may have never occured to him.

2. He also might use it on his boat as he said.


In which case he would need a license to use it in his truck in many
(most?) countries.

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It is exactly the issue. You can't say whether a license is required or
not until you know what country the OP is in.

How much are you willing to bet he is in neither the USA or Canada, both
of which have essentially the same rules.


I'm not willing to bet anything, because I don't make assumptions one
way or the other. And I don't give advice based on facts I don't know.

Ever heard the saying "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and
quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."? Everything he wrote
points to being from the US with a slight chance of Canada.


To use your language: Quack, Quack.

Nothing he wrote pointed to any country.

Also, your "advice" had nothing to do with the questions asked and instead
immediately took the position of net cop to make *sure* everything he
did was legal in your eyes.


No, I am making sure the advice I give is legal in HIS jurisdiction.
Obviously you don't care - you are more interested in arguing.

Also, he said he wanted to monitor on land.


Again - he said he wanted to monitor the trip - not the frequency. And
he specifically asked about installing a radio - instead of a handheld.
To me this means he also wants to talk.

He actually said he wanted to monitor several things.


Sure. And he specifically mentioned he wanted a radio instead of a
handheld, and wanted to use it in his boat as well as his truck.
Everything points to him asking for a transceiver.

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That does not mean the licensing requirements are the same.

They are for the USA and Canada.


No where did he say where he was from. You are making an unwarranted
assumption.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then
it probably is a duck.

Quack, quack.


Also where he is is irrelevant to the questions he actually asked.


Where he is is COMPLETELY relevant to the question he asked. But you
are more interested in proving your point than giving him correct answers.


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I don't think reviews are illegal to operate in any country, though maybe
North Korea...


But you don't know. As I said before, in the U.S., marine stations
still need to be licensed when on land (the same is true of aircraft
radios, BTW).

Which has nothing to do with what I said; read it again.



No, it doesn't have anything to do with what YOU said. But it has
EVERYTHING to do with what the OP said.

Nope, I said the Internet is full of *reviews*.

You immediately went off on legalities.

Two differnent subjects.



Obviously you can't read what I said. Once again - I wasn't talking
about what YOU said (I really couldn't care less). I was replying to
what the OP said.

But you are really hooked on you being right, aren't you? Me, I'd
rather give the OP answers which are legal where HE is. Which once
again, we don't know because he hasn't said.

Just because YOU are in the United States (or Canada) does NOT mean the
rest of the world is. This is a typical US-centric attitude I have seen
over and over again. There are other countries, you know. And some of
them even use radios.

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