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Old November 8th 14, 07:35 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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On 11/8/2014 2:21 PM, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
rickman wrote in :

On 11/8/2014 12:29 PM, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
rickman wrote in :

Ok. Then look around for low cost hosting. It really is not very
expensive these days. I think I'm paying around $50 a year and like I
said, the account is unlimited until you have bandwidth or storage
that would bring down the server.

They did once draw the line at a 2.5 TB map data base I was
considering hosting, lol.


I bet they did. Even Google might give the look askance.

I've been reading a page on server location, and maybe it's not the
issue I thought it was. On the other hand that page had nothign to say
about encryption, for example a download of OpenBSD from US to US was
(maybe still is) not very legal, but is safe fetched from Canada. Who
was at greatest risk I don't know, but the OpenBSD people were careful
to remind people of it for many years.


I don't know what you are talking about. What is illegal about OpenBSD?
I'm pretty sure that if you are in the US, the legality of a download
has nothing to do with the location of the server. Heck, there are some
acts that even if you commit them in a foreign country open you to being
arrested when you return to the US (mostly sex crimes such as juvenile
offenses).


What I'll do is look for a UK host with direct access to the link that
goes to satellite through Gonnhilly Downs in Cornwall, or the Lynx
router in London, failing that I may be ok with a US server, if I can
find a good UK software seller's precedent for similar use to guide me
on any issues I should know about.


What the heck are you planning to post that you are worried about
governments? You are aware that all governments have a great many
things they wish to look at on the Internet, but only a very, very tiny
fraction that they feel the need to do anything about? The latter are
usually things that threaten national security or are heinous crimes in
virtually every country.


I started responding in the other post, but it goes better here...

Sorry, I'd typed US to US, meaning downloading US to UK. Which in the case of
encryption a few years ago was dodgy, and advised against by the OpenBSD
people who presumably had good reason at the time. May still be true now,
though encryption issues got a lighter legal touch. The way things are going,
that might get heavier again, so I'm being cautios about general potential
for awkward legalites based on locations for code. Arguably, any closed
source is to some degree with-held from public domain.


How is encryption involved? Are you designing or using some state of
the art encryption?


My only issue really is that even if I get clearance from Yamaha to use the
name DX7 or make other helpful allusins to their original instrument in my
product name or any text that goes with it, there is still a risk that some
patent shark will want a peice of any action. Now, if I sell from a US-based
server, and they try to litigate, they may try to use a claim that I'd
exported the prduct, and try to force a case to be tried on US turf. I cannot
afford this. It seems safer to keep it on UK turf, that way they can only get
it by choosing to import it. That is a distinction that may well make it much
easier and cheaper for me to defend, not least because if I do host it in
another nation, I may find a limit on protection offered to me under UK law.


I'm pretty sure you are safe from patent sharks. They are looking for
money and unless you have some they won't bother you a bit. Even if
they do, they will have a hard time collecting anything from overseas
and they know it.


My logis tells me there's plenty I do not know, and it's better not to be
paranoid, but my intinct tells me it's better to play safe because when doing
anythign based on an originally successful commerical model, there are sharks
out there who might try to exploit any development based on it. That fact
alone drives all kinds of caution.


I don't know what logis is, but I would say you *are* being paranoid.
How long ago did Yamaha stop selling the DX7 or any product that might
contain similar technology? If you are using patented technology or
otherwise are infringing the rights of others, then I can't help you.

You can be paranoid all day long if you want. But it helps to consider
the reasons for people's actions, usually profit. I seriously doubt
anyone will care what you design. If you are selling things that
contain technology belonging to others I don't think it will matter what
country you are in or where you host your web site.

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Rick