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[email protected] · November 14th 14, 05:22 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna

Rob wrote:
wrote:
FBMboomer wrote:
On 11/12/2014 1:50 PM, gareth wrote:
It is a truism that short antennae are poor inefficient radiators, and no
amount of infantile bluster by Americanoramuses will change that.

The truth does not need the violence of abuse to force its way down
people's throats.

A perfect example is a G5RV on 75 meters. They suck. When someone joins
our group rag chew on 75, and they have a poor signal, The first thing I
ask is "Are you using a G5RV". We all have a chuckle when they answer
yes and then ask how we knew. :-)

Trying to prove with math that short antennae work as well as say a 1/2
wave dipole may give someone great sport. However, in the real world,
short antennae suck big time. I have been an American for most of my
life. Please do not paint us all with the same brush.

Any dipole type antenna will suck on 75M if mounted less than about
100 feet, or about .4 wavelengths. Below that you are warming clouds.

But that is actually very useful on the low bands!

Not for working "DX", but when you want to run a roudtable in an area
it works very well, especially when not in full summer daylight.

There are several of these groups active here, and it provides a
convenient coverage area for our language area, much larger than what
you achieve on e.g. 2 meters with typical vertical omni antennas mounted
on rooftops.

Yes, if what you want to achieve is local area coverage on HF, then
NVIS antennas work well for that.

The real problem is people throw around terms like "crappy", "sucks",
and "poor performer" without defining what it is they are trying to
achieve.

--
Jim Pennino