On 6/14/2015 3:32 PM, Tom wrote:
Thanks all,
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My idea was the push or the big brother (in receivith of a bribith) to
force us here in Ontario to change our smoke detectors every 5 years. It
may even be so written into the insurance laws (or fine print on page 62
on bottom of incurance form) (in japanese) that the insurance company
will not pay out in the event of fire and your detectors are out of date
according to the provincial code. The insurance agents always inspect
for cause to back out.

But what is happening in Ontario (in my city now) is the fire department
going door to door inspecting. Now get this. If you do not have a Carbon
Monoxide Tester on Every floor and IN Garage (if attached) then they
cannot leave until you do. Now they will sell you them off their truck
and it is $41.00 Canadian each. I know this because they are in my
friend's neighborhood and he has single floor and was forced to buy one.
$41.00 on the spot. Now, he gave me name and model number and exact same
one can be shipped to your door from the Ebay or Amazon for $12.00
Canadian.

Smoke detectors as well. Our big brother nanny state, the now most
expensive on the planet, is growing at an alarming rate and I could tell
you a hundred more ridiculous and expensive stupidity my govt is doing
but this is an idea.


Very interesting. Glad that's not happening down here; if they don't
have a legal reason to be on your property (i.e. fire or a search
warrant), you don't have to let them in your house. There is no way
they can search your house to determine if your smoke/CO detectors are
out of date or not. And if they refuse to leave, they can be arrested
for trespassing. It may be hard to get the DA to prosecute, but a
little news coverage can change that quite quickly.

So why would a Deep Cycle Battery Manufacturer make a batter last longer
than time frame that they couldn't calculate within their projected
income reports? I mean you own a boat. And why would a Smoke Detector
Company manufacture you a detector that would last the lifetime of the
home? It wouldn't be prudent.


Because science has its limits. And while they *could* build batteries
which last longer, the added expense would make the batteries more
expensive than people are willing to pay. Everything's a trade-off,
somewhere.

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rickman wrote:
On 6/12/2015 2:25 PM, wrote:
rickman wrote:
So what makes you think you need to replace a smoke detector every 5
years? I had units in my house that lasted over 20 years.

Likely a dusty environment.

You mean *not* a dusty environment? These were AC units and most likely
died from a power surge. This house is in the boonies where voltage
surges are more common because of the long reaches.

I mean a dusty environment causes a shorter life.

Aren't most houses about the same level of dust? Being upside down on
the ceiling helps keep the crap out. My PCs pick up tons more dust.

The dust level in any given house is going to depend on a whole bunch
of factors; where it is, local winds, what is in the interior, presence
or absence and efficiency of whole house filters, number of people,
number
of pets, etc.

On the other hand, I have not seen a CO2 detector for near the
price of
a smoke detector. Are they really so inexpensive?

You mean CO detector.

Yes, of course.

My detector rolled over yesterday; full of dust and crap.

In Lowes I found battery powered, stand alone CO and smoke detectors
starting out at about $20, battery powered, stand alone combo CO/smoke
detectors starting at about $50.

High end, network enabled models for a bit more, hardwired dumb models
a bit less.

I have always been able to find battery powered smoke detectors for $10.
Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot...

So was I until yesterday...

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Jim Pennino





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