View Single Post
  #5   Report Post  
Old July 9th 15, 02:15 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
John S John S is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: May 2011
Posts: 550
Default An antenna question--43 ft vertical

On 7/8/2015 4:51 PM, wrote:
John S wrote:
On 7/8/2015 1:14 PM,
wrote:
John S wrote:
On 7/7/2015 1:44 PM,
wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jerry Stuckle
writes


Sure, there is ALWAYS VSWR. It may be 1:1, but it's always there.

If there's no reflection, there can be no standing wave. So, being
pedantic, there's no such thing as an SWR of 1:1!

Despite the name, VSWR is defined in terms of complex impedances
and wavelengths, not "waves" of any kind.



Actually, VSWR is defined as the ratio of Vmax/Vmin.

Actually, VSWR can be defined several ways, one of which is:

(1 + |r|)/(1 - |r|)

Where r is the reflection coefficient which can be defined a:

(Zl - Zo)/(Zl + Zo)

Where Zl is the complex load impedance and Zo is the complex source
impedance.

Note that a complex impedance has a frequency dependant part.


So, since Vmax/Vmin (the base definition) has no frequency dependent
part, does that invalidate it?


The "base definition" can be whatever set of equations you pick that
are true.

BTW, the Vmax/Vmin DOES have a frequency dependant component that
determines WHERE Vmax and Vmin occur.


You are just being argumentative. The WHERE doesn't matter in measuring
VSWR. You still measure correct VSWR wherever the locations.