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Old September 17th 15, 06:23 AM posted to uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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rickman wrote:
On 9/16/2015 1:43 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Spike wrote:
On 15/09/2015 15:32, rickman wrote:
On 9/15/2015 5:10 AM, Spike wrote:
On 14/09/2015 22:32, Dave Platt wrote:
In article ,

One of the weird things about entanglement (and what Einstein called
"spooky action at a distance") is the following paradox:

- Measurements have shown that interacting with one of a pair of
entangled particles, has a definite effect on the state of the
other member of the pair. This effect occurs regardless of
distance, and isn't affected by lightspeed delay.

If that is so, then the possibility of a communication channel must
exist, the transmission mechanism of which is being used by the
particles .

It doesn't "must" exist.

The possibility of a comms system must exist using this effect. That the
engineers haven't found a way to exploit it is a different issue.


Engineering has nothing to do with it, the problem is fundemental
physics which says it can not be done.


Uh, which fundemental[sic] physics would that be? I think the principle
is *not* well established. There looks to be no utility at this time,
but many are still looking into it to see if there is a way to exploit
it. Clearly all the researchers did not flunk undergraduate physics.


Measuring the state of either particle
determines the state of both. So how do you gain any information at the
receiving end by this? That's the problem. There is no way to transfer
info usefully.

One needs to lard in some other factor. Imagine Hertz asking what use
his waves could be, all he could do with them is turn them on and off.


Go for it. If you succeed your Nobel is guaranteed, your name will
be ranked right up there with Einstein, and you will be ushering
in a whole new era of quantum physics.


In one way he is stating the obvious, while at the same time apparently
not understanding the enormity of the statement. I do like the use of
the technical term, "lard in". I would never have come up with that in a
million years. Let's give him credit for originality.

BTW, maybe you should say his *next* Nobel is guaranteed. Maybe he already has one?


It's on his mantelpiece, alongside his Cycling Proficency certificate and
25 Metre swimming badge.

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