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Old November 30th 15, 04:25 PM posted to uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Default Follow up to Spike ;Bent dipoles?



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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Wayne wrote:


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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna gareth wrote:
Spike recently commented upon his success with DX by implementing at
the base of his vertical antenna a fan
of 300 ground wires pointing in the direction that he wished to work.

I've not seen my suggestion before, but why could one not just have
a 1/4 wave vertical, with the other 1/4 wave making up the dipole
being rotatable for the desired direction of working?

Out of curiousity, I modeled the following:

freq: 14.2 MHz


radial height: 3 inches


Material: #12 copper


ground: average


I optimized the radiator and radial lengths for minimum reactance and
got:


radiator: 196 inches


radial: 190.6 inches


R: 75 Ohms


X: -0.4 Ohms


SWR: 1.5


Maximum gain: -1.8 dBi in the direction of the radial and an elevation
angle of 30 degrees


Reverse gain: -6.8 dBi


Polarization: primarily vertical with horizontal lobes 90 degrees to the
radial a -15 dB down from the max vertical gain.


Cool. Any idea what the numbers would be for the 300 radial
configuration?


Likely not a lot of difference.

I could add a few, but not going to spend the time to add 300.


# OK, I added radials for a total of 5 in a 45 degree spread and optimized
# for minimum reactance.

# radiator: 203 inches

# radial: 186 inches

# R: 52.4 Ohms

# X: 0.4 Ohms

# SWR: 1.1

# Maximum gain: -.18 dBi in the direction of the radial and an elevation
# angle of 30 degrees

# Reverse gain: -3.7 dBi

# Note with one radial the F/B ratio is about 5 dB and with five radials
# it is about 3dB.

# About the only thing I can see worth noting about this antenna is that
# it shows more radials are better, but everyone already knows that.

Interesting. Doesn't seem like it would be worth the effort to add radials
in this case.