On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 12:57:39 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 16:12:31 -0000, "gareth"
wrote:

As I said elsewhere, 43 years ago I completed an electronics degree,
specialising in computers and communications, and am now in a position
as a retired engineer to discuss those things that puzzled me and which
were never explained ...

Retired engineer with a degree? I would never have suspected that you
had any level of electronic competence beyond basic dabbling, much less
an engineering degree, which incidentally doesn't exist unless you
obtained a general engineering degree. Which university, what degree,
and in what year did you graduate (presumably 1972)? I want to verify
your claims.

Citing from
(And that is despite that in my last 10 years of gainful employment I
was designing test eqpt for mobile phone development!)

10 years designing test equipment should have given you considerable
experience in radio techniques, terminology, and in particular
standards. Yet, you seem to lack the relevant technical vocabulary
preferring CB lingo over proper engineering terms. You've also never
mentioned any testing RF testing standards. It's also odd that you
claim to have worked in the industry, yet have never offered an
anecdote, story, math, or calculation from your unspecified years of
employment. Something is wrong here.

I'm a great believer that education should deliver understanding as
opposed to training that only delivers knowledge.

This is not directed at you in particular, but in my never humble
opinion and limited experience in edukation, the best that can be done
is to overload the student with as much relevant and diverse knowledge,
facts, and techniques as possible. What they do with it will be
determined after they graduate and go to work. Experience is the best
teacher.

At the time I graduated (1971) college, teaching methods revolved around
independent thinking. Collaboration was deemed cheating. Teamwork was
tolerated only if there was a shortage of lab equipment. All that has
fortunately changed today, but it left it's mark on me. I initially had
a VERY difficult time working with other engineers and technicians
simply because I had never done it in skool.

If you had a teenage daughter, which would you prefer her to receive,
sex education or sex training?

There's not much you can tell a teenager. They already know everything.

Re-posting as Gareth claims to have kill-filed you.