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Old November 28th 03, 08:48 PM
Ryan Breai
 
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1. You have misrepresented what I posted, and
therefore you are a _LIAR_. I did not post what you said
that I posted. I have endeavoured to recreate the correct
way in which things were posted, E&OE.

2. It was you who used the term, "village idiot" however
you wish to claim that you latterly quoted it. Shame on you.
Grow up - by your childish predisposition you demonstrate that
you did not, in fact, grow up years ago, as you claimed, but one
cannot expect any more from a demonstrable _LIAR_.

As I said, Grow up, Geoff.

3. Dictionaries are recorders of history and not prescribers
of knowledge. The word, "CBisation" now exists, you have
used it; you understand the meaning of it.

4. As to commas being open to misinterpretation, then clearly
you have fallen into such a trap, by misinterpreting what you
quoted as a proscription of top-posting.

5. "In my view, a top poster is the internet equivalent to somebody who
shouts
over the person speaking, a heckler."

More unnecessary gratuitous remarks. Shame on you, grow up, Geoff.

6." This will make sure readers understand when they start to read
your response."
Will all bottom posters please note, that this requirement is met by posting
the quoted part anywhere. Anybody who is following a thread will not want to
be forced
to plough through old material again. Anyone who has not been following the
thread is ill-advised to select a posting from the middle. However, if he
does,
the archival material, like all references in any decent publication, is
given
at the end.

Geoff wrote in message
...
"Ryan Breai" wrote in news:3fc7840c_2@mk-nntp-
1.news.uk.worldonline.com:
The first thing I must say is....grow up, Geoff!
There is no call for you to resort to infantile outbursts,
such as your gratuitous use of "village idiot" below. You
are of the age when you should have left the school
playground well behind, and are giving a very poor example
for young noviciates of the art to follow.
Shame on you.
The crucial point in what you quote below is the comma
appearing in "top of the message, or include just" in the
second line. This shows quite clearly that two disparate
options are being discussed. EITHER summarise at the
top OR include enough text to give a context.
My top posting with quotation beneath satisfies the
second option.
Geoff wrote in message
...
A condemnation, therefore, of the CBisation taking place...
Not only can the village idiot not spell, he cannot post properly.
From the relevant part of RFC 1885
- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message or include just
enough text of the original to give a context. This will make
sure readers understand when they start to read your response.
Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the
postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a
response to a message before seeing the original. Giving context
helps everyone. But do not include the entire original!

Five points arise from your post:

Firstly, I "grew up" years back.

Secondly, I was using the term "The Village Idiot" as provided in the
newsgroup post header that I read. Given a reasonable newsreader, you
should be able to se this yourself but I reproduce it below for your
convenience:

Third: My comment on spelling: my copy of the O.E.D. does not recognise
"CBisation", nor does Websters - anyway, if it was of US origin, it would
have been spelt with a "z".

Fourth, why shame on me? I am only quoting from what either you call
yourself, or what at least one other NG reader called you.

Finally, and the real point, perhaps one may interpret the comma in the
that you do, but commas are notorious for misinterpretation. That is why
legal draughtsmen rarely insert commas.

The second sentence of the quoted paragraph of RFC1855, again reproduced
below, contains the real meat:

This will make sure readers understand when they start to read
your response.

Will all top posters please note, that this requirement is met by posting
below the quoted part. It certainly is not met by top posting.

In my view, a top poster is the internet equivalent to somebody who shouts
over the person speaking, a heckler.