As one who was there, the administration put so many "Uhh Uhh's" on the
rules of engagement that we had no chance of winning the war. Winning the
battle, and fighting with the bravest guys you ever saw, made no difference
when Macnamara and Johnson boasted that we "couldn't bomb a ****house with
out Whitehouse approval."

Battle is a fluid situation, you have to improvise. When you first have to
check back with the White House before bombing anybody you loose. Why the
hell didn't they bomb the hell out of Hanoi? This is where the Russians were
bringing in all the supplies to support Uncle Ho.

Johnson was scared we may hit a Russian ship, or bring the Chinese into the
mix. I was all for nuking the whole damn bunch.

So, the writer that stated we did not want to win is anything but a "stupid
son of a bitch" , he has an excellent handle on the realities of the
political side of the conflict.


"CQScanman" wrote in message
m...
"Stinger" wrote in message
. ..
Kennedy was a fascinating figure --
--basically groomed from birth by a scheming father for the
presidency,
--a womanizer,
--the visionary that sent us to the moon and started the Peace
Corps,
--and the sort of legend that can only be made by dying young.

However, Kennedy also gave us LBJ,
--who gave us the welfare state that has arguably destroyed the
family
structure of black Americans over the last 35 years,
--who ramped up the Vietnam War,
--and didn't try to win it -- betraying the trust of our servicemen,

What do you mean didn't try to win it? You stupid sonofabitch. Where'd
you pick up that useless piece of information? Recite your little
schpeel to the thousands of GI's wounded in Nam and the thousands more
with psychological scars. They'd kick your little faggot white bread
ass back to you higher institute of learning they never got to go to
because they were forced to ship out 2 months after graduating high
school.

--and giving credence to a knee-jerk anti-war movement that persists
(though times have changed) to this day.

What in the **** are you talking about? You weren't even alive during
Nam little fella. If it wasn't for that anti war movement we would
still be pumping lives and money into Vietnam and you'd be dead right
now because as soon as you were 18 they would have shipped your ass
over there and then shipped it back in a body bag 6 months later.


JMO,

Better to keep your mouth shut then to let everyone know how clueless
you are.


-- Stinger