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				 HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters 
 
			
			We have 146.04/.64 repeater on a nearby mountain top. It worked great foryears with a range of 100 miles or more. Since the phone company and a pager
 company installed their high power transmitters near the site of the
 repeater (within 100 yards) the repeater is virtually useless. After much
 head scratching I believe that the difference in frequency of the pager
 transmitter of 600 khz is the problem but have no idea how to solve the
 problem without going to an odd split. The repeater coordinator for this
 area of Virginia won't even consider that as an option.
 
 The equipment that we are using is excellent. The transmitter and receiver
 on the repeater are both Motorola Micor and were modified with to the
 repeater frequencies by FCC 1st class licensed hams using Motorola parts.
 This is not an equipment problem. We are running a set of Wacom cavities
 which were bought new and are correctly tuned and the antenna is a
 Phelps-Dodge Stationmaster. When the intermod occurs it is dependant on BOTH
 pagers transmitting at the same time. If only one pager is transmitting
 there is no problem. This may at first sound unusual but the pagers are in
 the 150 mhz band and they are exactly 600 kc apart. These transmitter are
 both 250 watts or more output.
 
 My theory is that the 600 kc (difference of the 2 pagers) is mixing with the
 output of the repeater 146.64 and producing the 146.04 signal, the repeater
 input frequency. We are using sub-audible tone for repeater access and as
 soon as a station working the repeater drops carrier the repeater drops. The
 intermod cannot hold up the machine once the tone is removed.  This may be
 happening in the antenna or hardline connectors prior to the cavities. Every
 test I have run, and there have been many, supports this conclusion.
 
 We are not the only 2 meter repeater that has fallen victim of this problem
 and in every case we have found two pager transmitters situated 600 kc apart
 near the repeater. Most of the other machines have been taken off the air,
 others just put up with it. No one has been able to solve the problem and
 many technicians have studied it.
 
 Moving the repeater far enough away is not an option since the peak of the
 mountain is so small. Also we are using an existing tower which we would not
 have access to at other locations. The searches I have done on Google has
 turned up the stock answer of helical resonators which would apply to 2
 meter radios but not repeaters. If you are familiar with the Micor equipment
 you know that the receiver has excellent helical resonators built in.
 
 Tonight I have considered the possibility of splitting the receiver and the
 transmitter of the repeater and linking the rx signal by a 220 mhz link. I
 am hoping that by reducing the level of the 146.64 signal by 50-60 db would
 alleviate the problem. Maybe not, but I'm out of ideas. This split would be
 only about 100 yards but could that be sufficient to relieve the problem?
 
 Have any of you ever had this problem and solved it? Any input (pun
 intended) on this matter would be appreciated.
 
 Ken Sturgill, KC4IH
 Marion VA
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