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			Dan/W4NTI wrote:"Steve Robeson, K4CAP"  wrote in message
 om...
 
 Mike Coslo  wrote in message
 
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 This is not as far-fetched as it may seem. I tried to help out a new
 Extra in a contest once. I knew he did not have any HF experience at
 all, yet he wanted a bare minimum of help. After showing him where the
 PTT was, and how to change bands, I started to explain the structure of
 a contest QSO. He interrupted me after the first sentence with a "not to
 be rude, but I'll take over now". I came back the next morning and saw
 the results of his work. Six QSO's! He was woring at the rate of 1 QSO
 per hour under *good* band conditions!
 
 I know this type...Not from Amateur Radio, so much, but from
 flying...They learned enough to get into the air and that's ALL they
 want to do.  And usually he's the idiot that Civil Air Patrol has to
 go find at 0300.  Of course he's in bed (didn't close flight plan) of
 the ELT on his aircraft is squawking because he didn't do a proper
 shut down.
 
 
 Even in my own experience, I know that I had my extra before I should
 have. I went from General to Extra in a little over 6 months.
 
 I forget who said there's two kinds of knowledge...there's the
 things you know, and the things you know where to find the answers
 to...
 
 
 I would propose that there be at least a year wait before upgrading to
 Extra. Ya just can't gain enough operating knowledge in less time.
 
 Yep!
 
 Steve, K4YZ
 
 
 Used to be back in the sixties.  Think it was 2 or 3 years actual on the air
 experience as General or higher (class A, Advanced) then you could take the
 Extra test.
 
 
 Yes to bothya'! It really isn't just the book learning.
 
 Seriously, I learned so much in that first year that I really only now
 consider myself a "real" extra, and at the bottom rungs of the ladder.
 
 But I'm a quick learner........
 
 
 - Mike KB3EIA -
 
 
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