From: Dave Heil k8mn

Also, few club members are interested in homebrewing,
despite claiming interest by posing for a photograph showing club members
doing a group project.

Well, they do have photographic proof. We're stuck with just your
claim.

No, they only posed for the photograph. It does not mean that they actually did
that activity. I can ask people in that photograph if they are interested in
homebrewing and that person will say he is not interested in homebrewing.

Therefore, the photograph is just hype and does not represent what the club is
really interested in.

So, the "advancement of the radio art" is just a justification
for more HF/CW activities.

So you're back to telling them where their interests should lie.

I didn't say they were interested in homebrewing - the photograph did. It takes
a prominant place in the club publicity. Except, the photograph is a
mis-representation of what the club members are truly interested in.

I'll wager that most "old timers" aren't even involved with a radio
club.

They don't go to club meetings. And they don't go to Hamfests. Nor are they on
2m. I get it - they don't exist.

You'll have to use the callsign database and begin making phone
calls or knocking on doors to come up with a scientific sampling

A scientific sampling is not needed by me, nor any potential new recruit to Ham
radio. If that person's experiences are of anti-social, mostly male, mostly
older, non-technical (if they are interested in that), Hams, then thats all
they need to know. It won't do much good to show them the other aspect that
"could" exist, but does not exist for them.

There have been exceptions of course, but it is too rare to be worth the
effort. I cannot search out the contradiction.

That's right. You've begun with an outcome and you're trying to make
the statistics fit that outcome.

I'm not making any statistics fit. I'm saying that if something is 95%* and it
takes you a certain amount of time to come across the other 5%, then its not
worth the effort.

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*The 95% number is given for example purposes only. It is not meant to
represent a specific percentage.