In article , Floyd Davidson
writes:

Alun Palmer wrote:
(Larry Roll K3LT) wrote:

My point exactly. This is one of the reasons why the requirements to be
licensed in the AMATEUR radio service do not require professional-level
RF engineering skills. Nevertheless, Carl seems to hold on to the notion
that his being an RF engineer somehow grants him exalted status as an
AMATEUR radio operator. Why is that?

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Could it be because he knows a lot about radio?

Makes no difference to Larry. His measure of an Amateur is
simply how near to being identical to Larry Roll are they.

Floyd:

Incorrect. My "measure" of a radio amateur is based on their having
attained reasonable knowledge and proficiency in the basic skills
required to conduct effective radio communications under the rules and
regulations of the Amateur Radio Service. I hardly ever compare other
hams to my own self, since as a radio amateur, I am now, by today's
standards, an exceptionally fine example!

If it is not important to Larry, it isn't important to the ARS.

Only if you think so, Floyd. Since you seem to be willing to suck up
to me, feel free to start impressing me at your convenience.

If
it is important to Larry, then any ham that doesn't measure up,
somehow isn't a real ham.

Prove it, Floyd.

It never occurred to him that many many hams are also
professionals, and if we measured him by the same standard, he'd
get laughed out of the club meeting.

I see. And this would be in keeping with the spirit of the Amateur
Radio Service…how? I'm sure you've done a lot of "laughing" at
"non-professional" hams in your day, Floyd. And I've known a lot
of "professional" hams who've done the laughing. However, I can't
really say I've learned anything useful from them, except for maybe
how to have a ****-poor attitude.

But in fact very few hams
who are pro's in the business think that hams are measured the
way Larry does.

Well, you must have brought up the "laughing out of meetings" for
a reason, Floyd. You obviously have some experience in that area,
or you wouldn't have mentioned it, if you truly feel what you just
said in the quote directly above. In reality, all you've done is to
expose the true nature of your attitude toward radio amateurs who
truly are "amateurs" in the sense that they don't make their living
as professional electronics technicians or engineers.

We do realize that it wouldn't be fair, and
that the ARS is afterall, a hobby and should remain that way.

You're making a vain attempt to straddle the fence here, Floyd.
Unfortunately, the top rail just splintered your ass but good!

73 de Larry, K3LT