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August 10th 03, 02:00 AM

In article , ospam
(Larry Roll K3LT) writes:

In article , "Carl R. Stevenson"
writes:

Larry,

I don't expect "exalted status" ... just some respect as one who is arguably
more knowledgable and competent in RF technology than the average ham.

Carl:

You have been shown that respect quite consistently, particularly by me.
However, the fact that you seem to be ignoring that fact is getting to be
more than a little bit off-putting.

It hasn't been YOU showing any "respect" Larrah. Sure, you've tossed
in some "polite" small phrases now and then, but then followed that up
with LOTS of "off-putting" disrespectful sentences and phrases all about
your own self-promotion as "expert in communications.".

However, as has been pointed out, you insist that your superior CW skill
is ALL that counts and that since I'm not up to your standards in that area
I'm a "lesser ham."

It's a simple fact that you don't have operating experience and proficiency
in Morse/CW, which I consider to be one of the most useful communications
skills in the radio amateur's arsenal.

Hmmm...let's see...

Larrah claims employment at Radio Shack prior to his 20 years with USAF.
In the USAF he flew a desk and never did any USAF communications.
Then he claims attending college with "summa cum laude" title add-on and
thus able to get any Human Resources career position he wants after
graduation...instead of landing a job as a Personnel specialist, he winds up
a BUS DRIVER but insist on calling his occupation "paratransit specialist."

Yes, a whole heaping glob of "communication skills" in that short resume.

For marketing folks and snake-oil salesmen.

A mere 50 1/2 years ago I was doing trans-Pacific HF transmissions as
part of my military service. At no time during my 3 years in that was there
ANY morse code used for primary communications. The USN radio HF
primary and USAF HF primary communications used the same TTY and
voice and FAX modes at that time. By 1978 HF comm was relegated to
secondary status, all US military branches.

For a half century the military and commercial carriers on HF have NOT
used any manual morse telegraphy for primary communications. But
the soma come loud bus driver insists that "morse code is a primary
skill!"

Ah, but the bus driver insists that is needed in amateurism! Of course,
to keep alive a living museum of the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Service!

To keep that legend alive, he insists that ALL who desire to enter a
radio hobby activity MUST take a manual telegraphy test!

Larrah's only justification is his holier-than-everyone opinion and self-
elevation to Raddio Godd status.

I have always acknowledged your
superior, professional-grade technical skills, and those of all other hams of
all license classes who possess them. However, I must reiterate, this is the
AMATEUR Radio Service. The ARS has a long-standing tradition of
requiring proficiency in the use of the Morse code, for the purpose of
permitting radio amateurs to exploit the many benefits and advantages of
that particular mode.

Invalid on all accounts, Larrah. Your accounts are bankrupt.

The FCC is NOT chartered to preserve old legends and old traditions.

ARRL seems to think its duty is to keep the morse legends and myths
alive and doesn't shrink from that propaganda anymore now than they
did a half century ago. They refuse to modernize even though the IARU
sided with eliminating the code test in ITU-R S25.5.

The ONLY place where morse code skills are of "value" would be in
amateur radio. Even snake-oil salesmen who were morsemen couldn't
make a living communicating in morse these days.

But, you, the NON-communicator (except as a very amateur) want to
keep a federal law that forces all newcomers to test for morsemanship!

Incredible!

I have consistently stated that I feel that this skill is
important enough to radio AMATEURS that it simply cannot be replaced,
even with technical skills which exceed licensing requirements.

Not a problem for you Larrah. You know so little about radio-electronics
theory that morsemanship is ALL you have in radiocommunications.

This is my opinion, Carl -- not a demonstration of any lack of due respect.
I would expect a person of your intelligence to recognize and acknowledge
the difference.

Hmmph...I would have expected someone with Summa Cum Laude
status and new BA degree in "human resources" (PERSONNEL) to
"get any job he wanted" in said "human resources." You are now
driving a bus.

Don't worry Larrah...nearly all of us have the "intelligence to recognize
and acknowledge" snake-oil salesmen when they show up in here.

Moreover, I have never held myself out as anything more
than an "average" ham, with the notable exception of occasional hyperbole
used in this newsgroup (and nowhere else) to push the buttons of particularly
intransigent fellow participants, including your own good self.

HYPOCRITE!

Google has thousands and thousands of your own words archived where
YOU hold YOURSELF up as the "role model" of "expert" in anything you
are talking about, showing your "dedication and hard work" to become
an extra class morseman. As an AMATEUR.

Self-elevation. Self-promotion. That is all you do in here.

Now go shine up your big bus, "graduate (summa etc.) human resources
specialist," your passengers are waiting...

LHA