In article , Dave Heil
writes:

about a post to James Miccolis

Len Over 21 wrote:

Please tell us all about when you flew those old "A-N" ranges. :-)

Did they let you fly your model aircraft on some old airfields, Len? :-)

Not "old" ones. Try Apollo Field at the Sepulveda Dam Recreation
Area in Los Angeles' San Fernando Valley. Real runway and ramp.
Popular with the Large Scale R/C groups here. Lots of model helo
flying too.

Model aircraft hobbyists lobbied for and got a whole bunch of 72 MHz
channels for R/C some while back. They still have them. Look in
Part 95, Title 47 CFR.


VORs have been in use on civil airways since before 1960. A lot more
accurate, easier to use, much less pilot error than the "range markers."

Oh, my, you love the past. :-)

An interesting comment coming from one who frequently brings up THE past
as well as his own past. :-)

The OLD "range markers" (actually "range beacon system") went
out with civil aviation way back in 1955 with new ICAO rules on
radio and radionavigation.

VOR or Very high frequency Omnidirectional radio Range, offers at
least a quantum leap over the old morse keyed "A-N" beacons.
Anyone claiming they do air navigation by those old "A-N" beacons
is at least 48 years out of touch with reality.

Morsemen tend to be out of touch with reality.

Didja know you can address all your written test content complaints to
the VEC QPC? They are radio amateurs themselves.

I'm sure they would include a question on "QFU" if any ham is expected
to line up his ham aircraft on a runway bearing.

Beep, beep.

Why are you concerned? You're no more a radio amateur than you are a
pilot.

I've designed and proved civil aviation radionavigation avionics. Those
worked very well.

Of course that was as a professional, something you detest.

I passed my US private pilot written exam in 1962. Gave up piloting
due to cost...$17.50/hour dual, $12.00/hour solo back then. A typical
four-place, single-engine, retractable-gear light aircraft back then cost
$30K (Mooney, only bare essentials of instrumentation). Hull insurance
premiums were 10% annual for beginning pilot-owners.

Back in 1963 my house purchase price was $30,500. It is now worth
about $375 to $390 thousand if I were to put it on the market. I made a
wise move to invest in real estate instead of a cute lil airplane...those
haven't appreciated very much in 40 years.

What the hell is your problem, Herr Robust? AVIATION isn't the
subject of this thread...someone else brought up aviation. You don't
have anything to do with aviation except to rack up frequent cryer
miles in here.

You don't know a VORTAC from hardtack. If you heard ATCRBS
pronounced you would think it an insect infestation. Pfffft.

LHA.