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Old August 23rd 03, 07:05 PM
Len Over 21
 
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In article , Robert Casey
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Do you think every ham understands how their radios work?


Few do.

At what level of expertise do you need here? Simple concepts on how
superheterodynes
work (block level diagrams) or precise knowledge on RF analog chip design?


My take on the general level of expertise can be reduced to:

"A transmitter sends out signals and a receiver receives them."

:-)

Or, when questioned on something more specific, the pointing to a large
stack of old QSTs and some Handbooks, "I got all the techie smarts I
need right THERE, I took my TEST long ago and don't have to learn
nuthin!"


Do you think
the tests even begin to measure the things a ham needs to know to
determine if a radio is working properly?

The FCC no longer devises the license exam test questions and it no
longer requires a minimum number of questions on specific topics within
the minimum number of written test questions per class.

Address your complaints about written exam question content to the
VEC Question Pool Committee.

At least enough knowledge to spot gross problems.


"Gross problems?"

Address bitching about "today's technical test dumbing-down" to the
VEC QPC.

Meanwhile, continue to operate solely in the ham bands (on HF, there
are no other real ham bands) and forget about interfering with any other
radio services. That's not a "ham problem" anyway, is it?

How could you possibly know something was
wrong if you had no knowledge of how the radio worked?

By how it behaves. And by how other hams tell you it sounds, or
doesn't sound.


HAR! Another reducto ad absurdum commentary! :-)

If (as you said earlier) hams don't have any grasp of technical matters,
how can they possibly judge the quality of signals? :-)

Listening to an AM or SSB signal with an FM receiver doesn't yield much
information on that AM or SSB signal, does it? How about judging
signal quality of FM on an AM receiver? Does slope detection yield
"quality" of signal that way?

Come on, few hams are that stupid.


I've met some. A few of those were morsemen, too! :-)


First thing I check is to see that I have the right receive
mode enabled. "Oh, I had LSB enabled for 20 meters, no wonder everyone
sounded screwed up".


Nu?

My hearing is not special but it is absurdly easy to spot a wrong-sideband
SSB receive mode by EAR, not having to check any panel controls...


On most modern HF transceivers, the 3rd harmonic has the strongest
content of RF. The 3rd harmonic of 3.5 to 4.0 MHz is 10.5 to 12 MHz
and there aren't many "ham listening frequencies" there, are there?

More than the fundamental?


Of the HARMONICS, the 3rd is MOST LIKELY to be the strongest
HARMONIC.

Don't try to get into nit-picky arguments over parts of sentences.

The third harmonic of 3.5 to 4.0 MHz transmissions doesn't fall into any
"ham bands" on HF so it is extremely unlikely that any other amateur
would have any listening capability in that part of HF.

Modern radios rarely have a failure in this
that is not obvious in other areas of performance.


That's a very nice blanket statement which is so much phlogiston, a
perfect rationale to absolve oneself from any need to know anything
technical. From experience in lots of "modern radios" designed and
built for far harsher environments than amateur radio, that's BUNK.

The Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF) of "modern radios" is FAR
BETTER now than at any time in the past, especially after the solid-
state era was entered. A couple of orders of magnitude BETTER.

"Modern radios" just haven't reached the perfection level yet.

Hams tend to give "signal reports" as 5-9-9 regardless of actual
lower values...it's the buddy-thing to do to fellow hams, right?

"Everyone is "59" on my meter..." :-)


Of course. Every ham signal is always perfect everywhere. Uh huh.

Do you really think even the Extra test measures that knowledge?
Particularly given the extremely wide range of technologies that a ham
is authorized to use?

We do put some faith in the quality of our manufactured equipment. Like if

the
harmonics are really down 60 dB or if our rigs are leaking harmonics only 55

dB
down. But we should be able to spot a gross deficency (like something broke).
Not necessairly be able to repair it ourselves, but be able to spot the

problem and
take the bad equipment out of service.


Not a problem. Just read the QST Equipment Reviews and BELIEVE them.
Don't bother with trying to measure anything yourself. Forget theory,
forget
having to learn anything, forget it all, just adjust those paddles and beep
away. Equipment Reviews wouldn't LIE to anyone, would they? After all,
HAMS did the testing, right? If specifications are printed on real paper
with
real ink, they are absolutely withoutadoubt "honest" and faithful to all
hams.

Do ALL the "technical discussions about performance" based on SOMEONE
ELSE's measurements. Argue the fine points of what SOMEONE ELSE
wrote. Never challenge any specifications printed on real paper with real
ink...if a ham did it, it is beyond criticsm. There's no point in doing it
yourself unless you have all the "credentials" and have been a ham for
decades...NOT doing a lot except USING the radios.

If you swiped a credit card for $2000 or so for an all-mode, all-everything
super-special, esthetically-gorgeous, ham whiz-bang, do NOT question
ANY of the manufacturer's specifications. Accept it on FAITH. You "got
what you paid for," right?

Hello? Want to improve written test content and quality? Go talk
at the VEC QPC and bitch at them...


No arguments on that? :-)


Example: New Ham buys old rig, which requires tuning up. Even though
in perfect operating order, said rig can be mistuned by the unknowing
to produce all sorts of spurious responses. Current tests say nothing
about proper method of dipping and loading, grid drive, audio gain,
etc. Heck, most current EEs couldn't get the thing to work without
help.


BFD. Did that 50 years ago, not even an EE then. Rather OLD
rigs then, some of them. :-)

Issue is a new ham trying to use the old rig as "plug and play" like a
new rig. He has to RTFM.


Nope. All that is necessary is skill and proficiency at morse code.
And being able to subtly tune in a signal in ways that professionals
couldn't possibly do.


didn't cover 1% of how his new/old rig works. FCC trusts that New Ham
will educate him/herself on the technology used and not cause
interference. So why should New Ham be forced to jump through a
written test hoop and learn things he/she won't use? Answer: Because
some folks think he/she should have to. And for no other reason.


Has the FCC *EVER* stated such a position? I don't think so.

The FCC does NOT specify the various content of written questions
on ANY written element...ONLY the total number.

See VEC QPC......

I think the FCC does has some specifications on the material to be
tested.


The FCC specifies the number of questions on every written test
element. Beyond that the ENTIRETY of the written test questions
and answers is left solely up to the VEC QPC.

The FCC has "final cut" on the written elements (final approval) but
that is rather pro forma.

And on the quality
of the wrong answers on a multiple choice test. You can't ask "the
voltage across a 1 ohm
resistor at 1 amp is: a) bananas, b) New Jersey c) 1 volt d) a can of beer."


Complain to the VEC QPC if you have a problem with that.

Sure. But just because FCC says it does not make it true.


The FCC does the licenses, and they decide what they care about in
deciding if an applicant gets a license or not.


No kidding?!? :-)

The FCC hasn't "cared much" anywhichway since the small but slight
change in Part 97 a few years ago when the VEC QPC got the WHOLE
magilla on written element questions and answers.


"Proficiency" starts at 10 wpm.

Well, the tests are done "Farnsworth" style, ie, fast code characters spaced

at 5 WPM
rate. Idea is to get people to learn the sounds of the characters instead of

thinking of
the dits and dahs and deducing the character. Less time wasted getting

proficient at
code if one chooses to.


There you have it...MORSEMANSHIP is the MOST IMPORTANT factor in
amateur radio operations below 30 MHz!!!

According to some, anyway...


You can bet your NAL that what the FCC is *TRUE* is very much true
if you get NAiLed.

Well, the FCC isn't going to NAiL you for being only able to do 7WPM instead

of 20
in the extra CW subband (really the extra data subband). Actually, I think we

should
informally keep the novice subbands as beginner Morse code users and have

informally
reserve the extra subbands for people who can do high speed Morse. Used to be

and
likely still is that expert morse men rove the novice subbands looking to

elmer the newbies.

Morsemanship uber alles in the year 2003!

There are NO "novice class" amateur radio licenses issued in
USA amateur radio. Are you going to keep space on a
"reservation" for all those missing indians or what?

How about we keep all those Morsemen Chiefs on their elite little
EM spectrum reservations, maybe have dude ranches where
youngsters can all attend to learn the Old Ways of Morse?

All those old Morse Chiefs have been giving us "lip" on their
morsemanship, now we can give them "lip service" by keeping
them all on their EM reservations. Everyone can be happy, the
Chiefs can brag up a storm, recite the old Maxims, and keep the
religion of morse alive in their peyote-fueled fantasies about radio.



We'll see. Not even 2 months since WRC-03, and the summer is not even
over yet. FCC could, upon review of the petitions, say "Yeah, we went
through this 3 years ago, nothing's changed, bye-bye Element 1".


The FCC hasn't said that yet. Or do you have "insider information" that
even Phil K. doesn't have?

Takes time for the brearucracy to turn its wheels. You think ham radio issues

like this
are at the top of the FCC's list of burning issues? I doubt it.


I'm not worried. It took TWENTY-FOUR YEARS to make a
dent in the "40m problem" and that isn't resolved yet.

All those Morse Chiefs are big and important...mouth-wise. They've
beeped for so long that they won't hesitate to send smoke signals
to the Great (Black and) White Father in Washington to Keep The
Morse Faith. [the Forestry Service may have to send tanker planes
to help control all the smoke and fire...]

All should strive to protect and serve the standards and practices of
the 1930s' radio in this new millennium. Keep the morse faith.

beep, beep

LHA