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September 9th 03, 11:07 PM

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The following isn't exactly a new idea, but some may not have seen it
yet...

Maybe the way out of the mess is for a Smith Chart test to replace
the code test.

So you still want the Amateur Radio Service to be the exclusive domain
of the Electrical Engineer's?

Nope. One does not have to be an EE in order to understand, and use, the Smith
Chart. Many hams who are not EEs have Smithc Chart knowledge and skill. Many
EEs do not.

Name ONE school that teaches Smith Charts that is not an Engineering school.

Just ONE!

Why?

Can't you?

Smith Chart use is not usually an enginnering school course.

Didn't say it was. Why does it have to be a course? Why can't it be
ancilliary training?

Did you use the Smith Chart while attending Engineering School?

It's
something those interested are expected to learn on their own,

Expected by whom?

So why suggest the FCC/VEC test it?

like
how to use a calculator today, or a slide rule in years gone by.

Or EZ-NEC?

I learned the Chart from the ARRL Antenna Book, not from EE school.

So EE schools don't even teach it, yet you promote it in the amateur
service?

btw, the plural of "Electrical Engineer" is "Electrical Engineers" not
"Electrical Engineer's". "Electrical Engineer's" is the possessive

So Electrical Engineers want to posess all of Amatuer Radio?

Ask vshah101, that's his mantra.

The argument is much older than Vipul, and you darned well know it.

I don't think that's what the FCC wants, but since the NCVEC can do
any damned thing they want, go ahead and put it to them.

NCVEC could not create a separate Smith Chart test without FCC approval.

Bull****!

Yes, that's what your posts are usually full of, Brian.

Part 97 specifically lists the tests for each class of license.

And what of the contents of those tests? Does the FCC mandate what
material is to be tested, or can the NCVEC slip in just about anything
they want, in any quantity they want?

Right now there are three written tests, all multiple choice. And one
code test. No Smith Chart test.

Then why must you promote the idea of "No Charts International?"

And
they could not deviate from multiple-choice format.

Bull****!

You really should read Part 97.

Not a problem. You should suggest the NCVEC read it.

It's obvious that irony is not one of your strong points, Brian.

It is obvious that NCVEC reality is not one of yours.

That's just plain wrong. NCVEC cannot add a Smith Chart test for the
reasons I listed. Read Part 97.

They can slide it in to any existing exam. No questions asked. With
the QP loaded with Smith Chart questions, they could deny access to
any of the 3 license classes.

Besides, NCVEC complains that the code test requires too much work
from the VEs and is too stressful on those being tested. I can imagine
what they'd say if they had to supervise and grade a Smith Chart test.

It would have to be multiple choice, remember???

And I can imagine how much you'd complain and argue if a Smith Chart
test were substituted for the code test.

How much?