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Old September 20th 03, 10:56 PM
Dan/W4NTI
 
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"Arnie Macy" wrote in message
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"Clint" wrote ...

well, this argument, like all of the PCTA arguments, is easy to knock

over
the fence and make a home run out of... right out of the ballpark, so

here
goes...

if you want to claim knowledge and right of discussion on a matter due to
your lineage OR your association proximity to somebody that actually MET a
person/group/insert noun of choice, then allow me to inform you that I

had
an uncle that actually served in the european theater as well as one that
served in the south pacific against the japanese. A little closer to me

in
age than a grandfather, greatgrandfather, or third cousin twice removed on
your mother's side sevearl generations back by marriage to the local meat
butcher or whatever. Until the passing of my uncle who served in europe

(and
god bless, didn't get killed), I was able to speak directly to him on the
matter and got first hand knowledge.

And know for one more bit of educational matter, if your cranium has the
capacity to absorb data at this rate..... if the learning process of the
human race were limited to contemporary times, and there were no history
books (as socialists would love dream of), and there were no processes by
which a person could be educated to more than his 5 senses could teach

him,
than civilization could not exist; we would never advance to one digree,

to
the nth degree, to NO point whatsoever if the learning process weren't
available to us to discover that which we haven't found to be true with

our
own experience. You would not be aware that this is but one planet in a
9-planet solar system; that one hundred million plus one hundred million
equals TWO hundred million... or any other fact or detail that could not

be
learned in a single solatary person's lifetime on thier own.

So don't try to claim that a person can't know anything unless he or she

saw
it for themselves, and couldn't learn it through thier elders. It quickly
makes you appear as though you don't understand the process of education
and, therefore, must have NONE yourself.
__________________________________________________ _____________________

Clint,

This is not a game where you hit home runs. This is a serious subject.

I'm
a few years older than you, so it stands to reason that I've had the
opportunity to speak directly with many of the members of my family who
survived the Nazis' attempt to exterminate them in Poland. I listened to
them many times over as a young man and understand fully the meaning of

the
word. I don't subscribe to your loose definition, and neither do the many
people who lived under that tyranny. When you use it to describe those

that
are in favor of code testing in the ARS, you cheapen the meaning, and
therefore the memories of all those people who did not survive. Please,
think about this before you use the word again. That's all that I ask.

Arnie -
KT4ST





Arnie,

This Clint character uses this sort of 'arguement' on everything he does.
Yet he claims 'knowledge' of the subject after saying basically that unless
you were there, you know nothing about it.

He shoots himself in the foot here as he does with the pro code testing
commentary. In fact his arguement proves he is just being a world class
smart ass.

In otherwords let it go Arnie. May I express my sincere regrets that you
have such a knowledge of those NAZI *******s.

Dan/W4NTI