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Old September 22nd 03, 05:22 PM
Steve Robeson, K4CAP
 
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message
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Your incorrect usage of snippage really hurts your comments. My point was

to show that adults are often required to meet standards set by people who
are experienced in their field of choice. This means taking courses in
college for example, that the student may never use. This is similar to
requiring hams to take and pass code tests.


Newsflash: The FCC was NEVER chartered as an educational
organization and the US amateur radio test is NOT an academic
achievement.


Even Bigger Newsflash: The FCC EXPECTS a certain degree of "self
training" from the Amateur Service, and hence it's requirement of
Amateur licenses which demonstrate increased knowledge with each
class.

It's right there in Part 97...read it for yourself, Mr.
Anderscum.

Electrical engineering is not ham radio.


Not quite the right wording. Make it: Ham radio is NOT anywhere close
to electrical engineering.


Even "more right" wording, Lennie: Make it: CERTAIN "electrical
engineers" are not able/capable/willing to pass even the most basic of
Amateur licenses despite the fact that even the most basic license
grants access to over 97% of all Amateur allocations.

Although they don't study code,
all of them have to take subjects in which they have no interest and will
never use otherwise they don't get the degree.


Mommy DEErest, I was USING engineering knowledge at work well
before I got my electronic engineering degree. It made classes (most
at night) much easier.


An item that I am sure applies to Amateur Radio POLICY in SOME
regard...Lord knows that LENNIE would never violate his own newsgroup
rules-of-engagement.

I did run into one instructor of the "Prussian General Officer" type
who adamantly insisted, in a class on digital logic, that "there is NO
such thing as an Exclusive-Or gate." I brought in a quad Ex-Or made
by Texas Instruments and showed him. "We will NOT have that in
MY class!" he ordered.


QUICK! A Medal of Night School Honor for Lennie!

This instructor of Asian ancestry...(SNIP)


Of course his "ancestry" was pertinent...To a bigot, that is...

(UNSNIP)...was young and had NOT worked in
the electronics industry on any digital logic design. Yet, we in the
class were not able to use a simple low-level logic device that had
been made for over 15 years at that time. I have other examples
from my personal experience and that of others in just about every
discipline in undergraduate school which do not show a full
awareness of academia to that of industry.


Still waiting for the fade-in to how this is pertinent to Amateur
Radio POLICY.

Perhaps one out of two electronic engineering instructors at the
college/university level MIGHT have worked in the electronics industry
at one time. I wouldn't bank on that. One of the excellent ones, whom
I've never met, is Dan McCracken, past president of the ACM (I was a
member courtesy of IEEE membership).


Nope...Not here either...

I digress...(SNIP)


Of course you do. You have NOTHING of any PERTINENT value of
construct to offer, so we are treated to yet another LenniRiffic
dissertation on how LENNIE saved the radio world through superior
firepower...

...(UNSNIP)since: 1. You refuse to acknowledge my postings because
I have strong opposite views to yours; 2. You like to play some kind
of Mommie DEErest and think that all newcomers to amateur radio are
at the level of children.


Ummmmm...THAT would be YOU, Lennie...Of course you extend that
exact same kind of "treatment" to Amateurs who are not only tenured in
the Amateur Service, but who also share like skills, knowledge or
experiences as you...

But in your LenniRiffic mind, NO ONE can be even remotely as good
as you...It's unthinkable...(thankfully ONLY by you)

Adults are required to do things they don't want to on a regular basis.


Yes, Mommie, but put aside the Mommie suit and THINK in reality.
Laws and regulations are NOT required to remain long after their
usefulness. That YOU personally like certain regulations is NO
imperative that they should be kept, certainly not to any government
agency making and enforcing those laws.


But YOU seem to think certain rules and regulations DON'T apply
to you, Lennie...why is that? Were you granted some sort of
dispensation by the Vatican to ignore them?

Try to remember that US amateur radio is NOT an academic exercise
nor is the FCC a college or university administering final exams.


You are the only one making even a suggestion that it is,
Lennie...

Why is it YOU make the assertion then spend days arguing about
it?

Mrs Lennie still not got that problem fixed? Can't stand to go
upstairs?

Class dismissed.


Not by you, it isn't.

Steve, K4YZ