"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message thlink.net...
"N2EY" wrote:
(Len Over 21) writes:

(snip) I got a COMMERCIAL Radiotelephone license
in 1956 (only one test needed) and had a career in radio-
electronics design since then. You will no doubt have to
say such is "irrelevant" for lots of reasons.

Not at all.

Please explain how that license and career have any relevance
to amateur radio policy. Particularly since you have never held
any class of amateur radio license.

Since anybody in this country can discuss amateur radio policy (license
policy or whatever), I do think a person's communications knowledge and
experience elsewhere is at least somewhat relevant to that person's part in
that discussion.

In certain technical matters, perhaps. But in the formation of policy
for the amateur service, why would such experience outside amateur
radio be more significant than another's experience as a radio
amateur?

Should we ask Howard Stern about amateur radio policy? He has
extensive experience in radio *outside* of amateur radio. He has made
millions from his radio career, and has branched out into TV, movies
and books, all of which have been financially successful ventures.

Millions of people listen to him daily, and find him informative and
entertaining.

Why not see what Howard Stern thinks about amateur radio policy
issues.

Why would you think otherwise, Jim?

I'm not saying that anyone should not be heard. Just the opposite.

I'm simply saying that holding up non-amateur-radio experience as some
sort of credential that disproves the opposing viewpoint of those with
amateur radio experience is faulty logic.

Len is obviously
interested in Amateur Radio, which is good.

Whoa, hold on a sec!

The only "interest" Len has shown in the past decade or so is numerous
lengthy postings to a few newsgroups.

Do you consider his attitude and behavior towards those who disagree
with him to be "good"?

Would you want a lot of new hams who behave the way he does?

The only thing I don't
understand is why he hasn't acted on that interest and gotten some kind of
Amateur Radio license over the years.

Perhaps the newsgroups are all the interest he has.

Since VHF and above is one focus of
commercial communications today, one would think the Technician license
would have at least some appeal to him. This glaring, long term, lack of
committment to Amateur Radio is what brings his ongoing participation in
this discussion under suspicion.

Which is why I point it out. The Tech license has not had a code test
for more than 12 years. Its written test is not very difficult. It
conveys all amateur VHF/UHF privileges. Yet Len has no interest in it.

You don't want to admit your occupation's firm name or what
it does,

Because it's not relevant. (snip)

This position is equally valid.

Thanks!

While a person's communications knowledge
and experience elsewhere is somewhat relevant (if that person chooses to
make it so), communications knowledge and experience elsewhere is obviously
not manditory for participation in this discussion, especially for the
person holding an Amateur Radio license which will be directly impacted by
the outcome of this discussion.

There is also the plain, simple fact of Len's behavior when he knows
the employment of someone who disagrees with him.

Is there *any* employment situation that *anyone* who supports code
testing could have that would cause Len to change his position on code
testing? I don't think so!

Is there *any* employment situation that *anyone* who supports code
testing could have that would cause Len to treat that person with
respect? I don't think so!

And so there's no point in *anyone* mentioning their employment here.
So I don't.

73 de Jim, N2EY