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Old October 16th 03, 02:49 AM
Bill Sohl
 
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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Bill Sohl wrote:
"Dick Carroll" wrote in message
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Bill Sohl wrote:
Dwight:

Because of that, few who oppose code testing, and even fewer

Technicians,

attend that club's meetings or socialize with the members. Find me a

survey


that is truly unbiased and I'll be glad to discuss the results. Until

then,discussing the results of surveys is simply a waste of time.

N2EY:

Then consider the comments to the restructuring NPRM.

I agree...surveys, votes, etc hold little sway with the FCC anyway.


So you think Bill Cross is obfuscating when he says that FCC wants the
ham community to decide what our rules are to be, for us to reach a
concensus??



Not at all, but I also believe that when it is obvious to the FCC that
a rule change is appropriate...even if a majority of hams oppose
that change...the FCC will do what it believes is right and in the
public interest. 98-143 serves as a bellweather to that since, if
most hams favored 5wpm General and 12 wpm Extra, the FCC
didn't buy it.


Bill, while you like to bring out this argument when discussing
Elimination of Morse code, I'd like to suggest you imagine some
situation where something you like about the ARS is going away.


We have seen that many times. Clearly the overwhelming
majority of comments filed by hams against the loss of
220 bandwidth was just such a situation. The same may end
up being the case with BPL.

Now assume that someone brings up the same point, that is:

I also believe that when it is obvious to the FCC thata rule change is
appropriate...even if a majority of hams oppose
that change...the FCC will do what it believes is right and in the
public interest.

I'll bet you would interpret that a invitation by the poster for you to
go away and kee quiet!


People can invite me to do anything. If someone is so shallow
that they think my comment above is an indirect way of telling
them to keep quiet, then they must be pretty weak minded...IMHO.

Perhaps we should use those words for say... BPL? Ad a few words to the
beginning, and:


I already brought up BPL above.

NO QUOTE of yours, just an example here

As regards to the FCC approving the nationwide deployment of BPL, I also
believe that when it is obvious to the FCC that a rule change is
appropriate...even if a majority of hams oppose that change...the FCC
will do what it believes is right and in the public interest.

I'm trying to say that while a truism, it isn't necessarily a good
argument. See what I mean?


It's not an argument, it is a fact...reality. We deal with it in the
past and will do so in the future. The point is that the FCC doesn't
look to the comments as a democratic voting process.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK