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Gene Fuller wrote:
When superposition applies, as it does in this linear, non-pathological case, there is no difference between the reality of the components vs. the reality of the sum. I accept both methods of analysis. What I object to is people rejecting the wave reflection model. e.g. "Reflected waves don't really exist and don't really contain any energy." As in the earlier discussion about standing wave phase, you and I wind up on the same side of the argument. What I object to is the irrational conclusions drawn by proponents of the standing wave analysis. Here are some of the past assertions: Forward waves and reflected waves cease to exist after they have been superposed. The standing wave is all that is left. Question: If the components of superposition cease to exist, doesn't that mean the products of superposition also cease to exist? (No answer) Standing waves don't require a forward wave and a reflected wave. Question: How does one obtain a standing wave without a forward traveling wave and a reverse traveling wave? (No answer) You have railed against seduction by math models on many occasions. I have railed against the assertions that superposition destroys forward and reflected waves such that they cease to exist in reality. From a recent QEX article: "I wish to emphasize the fact that the forward and reverse waves really do not exist separately, ..." So I ask you, Gene, if forward waves and reverse waves do not exist separately, how can they possibly be superposed? Seems to me, the above statement from QEX is a violation of cause and effect. If forward waves and reverse waves do not exist separately, how can they possibly be separated by a circulator? -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
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