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Looking for a website with results of mobile antenna shootouts. Google
returns lots of hits, but not what I'm looking for. Any help?

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Bill Turner wrote:
Looking for a website with results of mobile antenna shootouts. Google
returns lots of hits, but not what I'm looking for. Any help?


I've got a short summary of three 20th century CA
shootouts on my web page at: www.w5dxp.com/shootout.htm
What is it that you are looking for?
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On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:31:53 GMT, Cecil Moore
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I've got a short summary of three 20th century CA
shootouts on my web page at: www.w5dxp.com/shootout.htm
What is it that you are looking for?


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Your website answers my question. I was looking for comparisons
between the various antenna designs. Big coils and top hats win, knew
that already, but nice to see the dB figures.

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Bill Turner wrote:
Your website answers my question. I was looking for comparisons
between the various antenna designs. Big coils and top hats win, knew
that already, but nice to see the dB figures.


Big center-loaded coils with Big top hats on
Big vehicles win. :-)
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On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:31:53 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

I've got a short summary of three 20th century CA
shootouts on my web page at: www.w5dxp.com/shootout.htm
What is it that you are looking for?


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Your website answers my question. I was looking for comparisons
between the various antenna designs. Big coils and top hats win, knew
that already, but nice to see the dB figures.


I don't see any information at that web site about the type of vehicle.
Since the vehicle radiates an amount comparable to the antenna, it can
have a profound effect on the overall field strength. Were all those
antennas mounted on the same type of vehicle?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


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Roy Lewallen wrote:
I don't see any information at that web site about the type of vehicle.
Since the vehicle radiates an amount comparable to the antenna, it can
have a profound effect on the overall field strength. Were all those
antennas mounted on the same type of vehicle?


Those are averages, Roy, not associated with any particular
vehicle. The average screwdriver beats the average hamstick
on 75m. Using similar antennas, the larger vehicles (GMC
pickups) usually beat the smaller vehicles (Honda Civics).
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et...
Roy Lewallen wrote:
I don't see any information at that web site about the type of vehicle.
Since the vehicle radiates an amount comparable to the antenna, it can
have a profound effect on the overall field strength. Were all those
antennas mounted on the same type of vehicle?


Those are averages, Roy, not associated with any particular
vehicle. The average screwdriver beats the average hamstick
on 75m. Using similar antennas, the larger vehicles (GMC
pickups) usually beat the smaller vehicles (Honda Civics).
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Makes sense.
Also confirms my experience.
I've also found optimum performance driving the antenna where it's resonant
and matching the (purely resistive) impedances with a transformer.
In this case a simple toroidal autoformer. At 40 meters, a Tarheel
screwdriver with a five-foot whip is about 20 ohms, for example.
73
H.


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