On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:05:48 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:

Danny Richardson wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:58:12 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:


Aha! I was troubled with how you got mold or moss or anything to stick
to PE. I believe you are correct in your suspicions. One of PE's main
draws is it's inertness, and it is a real bear trying to get anything to
adhere to it. There is some possibility that the spray may have
contributed to what appears to be pitting on the line.

Certainly something troubles me with the idea that we can test
something under conditions where we apply chemistry to alter a
fundamental property of the material. (I'm referring to the wetting
agent tests) I believe that the tests do show adequately how ladder line
performs when covered with wetting agent and water. And that we don't
want to do that! ;^)

- 73 de mike KB3EIA -


Well Mike, along my experience with ladder line there is also Roy's
and Wes's measurements. Based upon that, for me, I'm off the stuff.

No problem Danny, although I'm not going to accept argument upon
authority. I give some extra weight to Roy and Wes's arguments, but
won't accept the arguments just because they say it's so. Should I?

My present open line setup is appears to be working fine. No
detectable moss, mildew or anything else that I can detect.

And I'll bet you didn't put anything on it?

Don't have to. Moss won't grow on copper oxide. In fact, we add copper
flashing to the peaks of our roof line to prevent moss growth on the
shingles.


One can go on forever trying to justify one way or the other, but thus
far, wet ladder or ribbon line has shown not to be the best route to
go - from three different sources. If you have something to the
contrary I certainly would be interested in hearing about it.

You coated your line with something it shouldn't have had on it.

How do you know this? What proof do you have for that statement?


The other line was coated with wetting agent, which some of us might think
was an artificial substance to be coating it with.

I'm not going to defend Wes here but do you really feel for a moment
that a couple drops of detergent soap to a gallon or two of water
would really make that much difference? My gwad, what about salt
spray, pollen and dust accumulated on my line?

I noted that it was stated (in an earlier posting on this thread) that
I had used an unauthorized procedure. Pray tell just who do I contact
to get necessary authorization - EPA, OSHA, or?? I just took the
advise of the supplier who recommended for those living is a wet area
(like me) to coat the line with car wax, spray it with pledge or a
silicon spray - I choose the latter. Something wrong taking the advise
of someone experienced with the product?

Are you by chance a government employee?

I do wonder if you have any experience living in an area such as mine
because if you did you would know that here on the northern California
coast we have a lot of rain (over 65" last year). Coupled with that I
live about ½-mile from the ocean and also have a lot of heavy marine
fog. Here the three Ms (moss, mildew and mushrooms) grow very well
indeed.

{An aside: Roy, if you're reading this no comment about the fourth M.}

If you don't want to give any creditability to what happen to me -
fine. Or if you believe through the miracle of applying silicon spray
makes moss grow where otherwise it wouldn't - that's fine too.

Danny, K6MHE