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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB003
ARLB003 ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License, Code-Free HF Access ZCZC AG03 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 3 ARLB003 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT January 20, 2004 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB003 ARLB003 ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License, Code-Free HF Access The ARRL will ask the FCC to create a new entry-level Amateur Radio license that would include HF phone privileges without requiring a Morse code test. The League also will propose consolidating all current licensees into three classes, retaining the Element 1 Morse requirement--now 5 WPM-only for the highest class. The ARRL Board of Directors overwhelmingly approved the plan January 16 during its Annual Meeting in Windsor, Connecticut. The proposals--developed by the ARRL Executive Committee following a Board instruction last July--are in response to changes made in Article 25 of the international Radio Regulations at World Radiocommunication Conference 2003 (WRC-03). They would continue a process of streamlining the amateur licensing structure that the FCC began more than five years ago but left unfinished in the Amateur Service license restructuring Report and Order (WT 98-143) that went into effect April 15, 2000. ''Change in the Amateur Radio Service in the US, especially license requirements and even more so when Morse is involved, has always been emotional,'' said ARRL First Vice President Joel Harrison, W5ZN, in presenting the Executive Committee's recommendations. ''In fact, without a doubt, Morse is Amateur Radio's 'religious debate.''' The entry-level license class--being called ''Novice'' for now--would require a 25-question written exam. It would offer limited HF CW/data and phone/image privileges on 80, 40, 15 and 10 meters as well as VHF and UHF privileges on 6 and 2 meters and on 222-225 and 430-450 MHz. Power output would be restricted to 100 W on 80, 40, and 15 meters and to 50 W on 10 meters and up. ''The Board sought to achieve balance in giving new Novice licensees the opportunity to sample a wider range of Amateur Radio activity than is available to current Technicians while retaining a motivation to upgrade,'' said ARRL CEO David Sumner, K1ZZ. Under the ARRL plan, current Novice licensees--now the smallest and least active group of radio amateurs--would be grandfathered to the new entry-level class without further testing. The middle group of licensees--Technician, Tech Plus (Technician with Element 1 credit) and General--would be merged into a new General license that also would not require a Morse examination. Current Technician and Tech Plus license holders automatically would gain current General class privileges without additional testing. The current Element 3 General examination would remain in place for new applicants. The Board indicated that it saw no compelling reason to change the Amateur Extra class license requirements. The ARRL plan calls on the FCC to combine the current Advanced and Amateur Extra class licensees into Amateur Extra, because the technical level of the exams passed by these licensees is very similar. New applicants for Extra would have to pass a 5 WPM Morse code examination, but the written exam would stay the same. Sumner said the Board felt that the highest level of accomplishment should include basic Morse capability. Current Novice, Tech Plus and General licensees would receive lifetime 5 WPM Morse credit. ''This structure provides a true entry-level license with HF privileges to promote growth in the Amateur Service,'' Harrison said. Among other advantages, Sumner said the plan would allow new Novices to participate in HF SSB emergency nets on 75 and 40 meters as well as on the top 100 kHz of 15 meters. The new license also could get another name, Sumner said. ''We're trying to recapture the magic of the old Novice license, but in a manner that's appropriate for the 21st century.'' The overall proposed ARRL license restructuring plan would more smoothly integrate HF spectrum privileges across the three license classes and would incorporate the ''Novice refarming'' plan the League put forth nearly two years ago in a Petition for Rule Making (RM-10413). The FCC has not yet acted on the ARRL plan, which would alter current HF subbands. The ARRL license restructuring design calls for no changes in privileges for Extra and General class licensees on 160, 60, 30, 20, 17 or 12 meters. Novice licensees would have no access to those bands. See ''ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License, Code-Free HF Access'' on the ARRL Web site, www.arrl.org/news/stories/2004/01/19/1/, for the specific subband allocations ARRL is proposing for each class. NNNN /EX |
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![]() Gee... I thought the last restructuring was to streamline the license classes, get rid of the under utilized 'entry' class license(s), simplify things. Wasn't that the reasoning? Now here we go 'cluttering' it up again. Lets see, an 'entry' class license is to 'give people a taste' of ham radio, see if they like it, sort of an 'easy start' license, right? Seems like I've heard of that before (a few times, actually). Wasn't that what a couple of the licenses that got dumped in the last restructuring were? And by all means, lets give that 'entry' license a glitzy name so no one will recognize it for what it is, wouldn't want to make it obvious, would we? Make it easy for others to distinguish between them and the other licensee's? I mean, you wouldn't want to be able to 'point a finger' at operators who are out of bounds, for instance. To me, an 'entry' class license shouldn't be 'for ever', there should be a reason to up-grade, right? How about making it for a limited duration, and non-renewable? Hmmm, where have I heard that before? (But you know what, it worked! Oh well, that's a good reason not to do it that way again, isn't it?) What's the matter 'Mr. ARRL'? Not getting that 'huge' influx of new hams to buy your magazine? Don't you ever learn anything? How about doing what you're supposed to be doing? Hey, that would be a refreshing change! 'Doc |
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Pretty much agree with Doc, altho, after the last "restructureing", the
value of a license is worthless! And now, the league wants to degrade it even more ?? Why even have a test?? Just issue licenses on the back of cereal boxes, or inside Cracker Jack boxes, or like about 45 years ago, when Popular Electronics issued their SWL calls (Think mine was WPE7AYQ) !! Or, even better: Lets auction off ALL THE SPECTRUM, for amateur bands to the highest bidders, and balance our federal deficit! Then we can ALL share the blissful 40 channels in the eleven meter band!! Maybe, also all those free band channels, up to, and sometimes includeing the CW segment of 10 meters!! Yeh, that the (pardon the pun) TICKET !! NN7K Jim "'Doc" sent: Gee... I thought the last restructuring was to streamline the license classes, get rid of the under utilized 'entry' class license(s), simplify things. Wasn't that the reasoning? Now here we go 'cluttering' it up again. Lets see, an 'entry' class license is to 'give people a taste' of ham radio, see if they like it, sort of an 'easy start' license, right? Seems like I've heard of that before (a few times, actually). Wasn't that what a couple of the licenses that got dumped in the last restructuring were? And by all means, lets give that 'entry' license a glitzy name so no one will recognize it for what it is, wouldn't want to make it obvious, would we? Make it easy for others to distinguish between them and the other licensee's? I mean, you wouldn't want to be able to 'point a finger' at operators who are out of bounds, for instance. To me, an 'entry' class license shouldn't be 'for ever', there should be a reason to up-grade, right? How about making it for a limited duration, and non-renewable? Hmmm, where have I heard that before? (But you know what, it worked! Oh well, that's a good reason not to do it that way again, isn't it?) What's the matter 'Mr. ARRL'? Not getting that 'huge' influx of new hams to buy your magazine? Don't you ever learn anything? How about doing what you're supposed to be doing? Hey, that would be a refreshing change! 'Doc |
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Jim wrote:
Pretty much agree with Doc, altho, after the last "restructureing", the value of a license is worthless! The only value in a license are the privileges granted. The privileges granted haven't changed appreciably. I had full access to all ham bands in 1953 and I still have full access to all ham bands in 2004. I lost 11m and 220 MHz but gained the WARC bands. The value of my license is very close to what it was in 1953. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:19:04 -0600, Cecil Moore
wrote: Jim wrote: Pretty much agree with Doc, altho, after the last "restructureing", the value of a license is worthless! The only value in a license are the privileges granted. The privileges granted haven't changed appreciably. I had full access to all ham bands in 1953 and I still have full access to all ham bands in 2004. I lost 11m and 220 MHz but gained the WARC bands. The value of my license is very close to what it was in 1953. Unfortunately, there are far too many for whom the value of their license is measured in how many people it allows them to look down their noses at. Their only motivation for moving up was so they could gloat over how much better they are than anyone that isn't up to their standards. This is also the primary reason that contests and awards are rubbed in our faces in most of the magazines and newsletters. This is the crowd the ARRL has been cutivating for years, because they don't care about advancing the state of the art, or building their own equipment, helping others, or any of the other aspects of the hobby that used to make it great. They simply want to buy the newest, coolest, fanciest or most expensive rig to help them along on their ego trip, which keeps the advertisers happy. Somebody let me know when QST no longer has any contests or award notices in it. Then I *might* be interested in looking at it again. Bob McConnell N2SPP |
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I disagree with your premise Bob, I hope that you are not so insecure with
your manhood that you would find the success of others a threat. Many of us older farts strive for excellence, we use various means to measure how we compare to others. Do not confuse pride in accomplishment with ego. In spite of what the feel good types tell you, competition is a basic human instinct. Keeping score is the way to quantify the competition. To distain the accomplishments of others as "ego" is both supercilious and lacking in the basic understanding of the human condition. "Bob McConnell" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:19:04 -0600, Cecil Moore Unfortunately, there are far too many for whom the value of their license is measured in how many people it allows them to look down their noses at. Their only motivation for moving up was so they could gloat over how much better they are than anyone that isn't up to their standards. This is also the primary reason that contests and awards are rubbed in our faces in most of the magazines and newsletters. This is the crowd the ARRL has been cutivating for years, because they don't care about advancing the state of the art, or building their own equipment, helping others, or any of the other aspects of the hobby that used to make it great. They simply want to buy the newest, coolest, fanciest or most expensive rig to help them along on their ego trip, which keeps the advertisers happy. Somebody let me know when QST no longer has any contests or award notices in it. Then I *might* be interested in looking at it again. Bob McConnell N2SPP |
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Bob McConnell wrote:
Unfortunately, there are far too many for whom the value of their license is measured in how many people it allows them to look down their noses at. At 6'4", I don't usually need a ham license for that. :-) -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Hey Bob,
I get QST...always have. The contesting stuff doesn't interest me, so I just ignore it. Occasionally I'll see a familiar call and think "hey, I know that guy", then move on. 73 Joe KB8QLR -- Be sure to check-out our webpages... http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/kb8qlrjoe/index.html New pictures & links being added frequently. "Bob McConnell" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:19:04 -0600, Cecil Moore wrote: Jim wrote: Pretty much agree with Doc, altho, after the last "restructureing", the value of a license is worthless! The only value in a license are the privileges granted. The privileges granted haven't changed appreciably. I had full access to all ham bands in 1953 and I still have full access to all ham bands in 2004. I lost 11m and 220 MHz but gained the WARC bands. The value of my license is very close to what it was in 1953. Unfortunately, there are far too many for whom the value of their license is measured in how many people it allows them to look down their noses at. Their only motivation for moving up was so they could gloat over how much better they are than anyone that isn't up to their standards. This is also the primary reason that contests and awards are rubbed in our faces in most of the magazines and newsletters. This is the crowd the ARRL has been cutivating for years, because they don't care about advancing the state of the art, or building their own equipment, helping others, or any of the other aspects of the hobby that used to make it great. They simply want to buy the newest, coolest, fanciest or most expensive rig to help them along on their ego trip, which keeps the advertisers happy. Somebody let me know when QST no longer has any contests or award notices in it. Then I *might* be interested in looking at it again. Bob McConnell N2SPP |
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To avoid all the ****ing and moaning on an individual basis, everyone stand
up and say, in unison, "I had to take the code test so should everyone else, boo hoo hoo". "Lloyd Mitchell" wrote in message .. . SB QST @ ARL $ARLB003 ARLB003 ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License, Code-Free HF Access ZCZC AG03 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 3 ARLB003 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT January 20, 2004 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB003 ARLB003 ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License, Code-Free HF Access The ARRL will ask the FCC to create a new entry-level Amateur Radio license that would include HF phone privileges without requiring a Morse code test. The League also will propose consolidating all current licensees into three classes, retaining the Element 1 Morse requirement--now 5 WPM-only for the highest class. The ARRL Board of Directors overwhelmingly approved the plan January 16 during its Annual Meeting in Windsor, Connecticut. The proposals--developed by the ARRL Executive Committee following a Board instruction last July--are in response to changes made in Article 25 of the international Radio Regulations at World Radiocommunication Conference 2003 (WRC-03). They would continue a process of streamlining the amateur licensing structure that the FCC began more than five years ago but left unfinished in the Amateur Service license restructuring Report and Order (WT 98-143) that went into effect April 15, 2000. ''Change in the Amateur Radio Service in the US, especially license requirements and even more so when Morse is involved, has always been emotional,'' said ARRL First Vice President Joel Harrison, W5ZN, in presenting the Executive Committee's recommendations. ''In fact, without a doubt, Morse is Amateur Radio's 'religious debate.''' The entry-level license class--being called ''Novice'' for now--would require a 25-question written exam. It would offer limited HF CW/data and phone/image privileges on 80, 40, 15 and 10 meters as well as VHF and UHF privileges on 6 and 2 meters and on 222-225 and 430-450 MHz. Power output would be restricted to 100 W on 80, 40, and 15 meters and to 50 W on 10 meters and up. ''The Board sought to achieve balance in giving new Novice licensees the opportunity to sample a wider range of Amateur Radio activity than is available to current Technicians while retaining a motivation to upgrade,'' said ARRL CEO David Sumner, K1ZZ. Under the ARRL plan, current Novice licensees--now the smallest and least active group of radio amateurs--would be grandfathered to the new entry-level class without further testing. The middle group of licensees--Technician, Tech Plus (Technician with Element 1 credit) and General--would be merged into a new General license that also would not require a Morse examination. Current Technician and Tech Plus license holders automatically would gain current General class privileges without additional testing. The current Element 3 General examination would remain in place for new applicants. The Board indicated that it saw no compelling reason to change the Amateur Extra class license requirements. The ARRL plan calls on the FCC to combine the current Advanced and Amateur Extra class licensees into Amateur Extra, because the technical level of the exams passed by these licensees is very similar. New applicants for Extra would have to pass a 5 WPM Morse code examination, but the written exam would stay the same. Sumner said the Board felt that the highest level of accomplishment should include basic Morse capability. Current Novice, Tech Plus and General licensees would receive lifetime 5 WPM Morse credit. ''This structure provides a true entry-level license with HF privileges to promote growth in the Amateur Service,'' Harrison said. Among other advantages, Sumner said the plan would allow new Novices to participate in HF SSB emergency nets on 75 and 40 meters as well as on the top 100 kHz of 15 meters. The new license also could get another name, Sumner said. ''We're trying to recapture the magic of the old Novice license, but in a manner that's appropriate for the 21st century.'' The overall proposed ARRL license restructuring plan would more smoothly integrate HF spectrum privileges across the three license classes and would incorporate the ''Novice refarming'' plan the League put forth nearly two years ago in a Petition for Rule Making (RM-10413). The FCC has not yet acted on the ARRL plan, which would alter current HF subbands. The ARRL license restructuring design calls for no changes in privileges for Extra and General class licensees on 160, 60, 30, 20, 17 or 12 meters. Novice licensees would have no access to those bands. See ''ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License, Code-Free HF Access'' on the ARRL Web site, www.arrl.org/news/stories/2004/01/19/1/, for the specific subband allocations ARRL is proposing for each class. NNNN /EX |
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They ****ed and Moaned when incentive licensing hit...
And they still **** and Moan when non-incentive licensing hits.. what goes around, comes around... Pete |